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Really? Have you tried reading or watching TV other than right wing propaganda? Perhaps you should give it a spin some time.
What separates the liberals from the right wing extremists is the ability to resist judging entire groups of people based on the actions of a few.
Like this quote of yours where you lump everyone who works in coal mines living on the government dole?
But it is ok, when you can't refute an argument, just deflect, it is the CD way. Especially while making generalities yourself about me not reading or watching "right wing propoganda"
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Originally Posted by JasonF
When did Obama shut the coal mines down?
These people have been living off the government dole for decades. Mining started heading out and downsizing in the 1960s in Appalachia. Obama wasn't even born when the industry started collapsing. In fact, the only time in recent memory when it's shown any signs of life at all was when Obama first took office and at least in WV, mining employment briefly ticked up.
And even if he did shut down the mines (which is both an insanely stupid thing to say and also completely and totally wrong), why does that justify rampant disability fraud?
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Originally Posted by shooting4life
Like this quote of yours where you lump everyone who works in coal mines living on the government dole?
But it is ok, when you can't refute an argument, just deflect, it is the CD way. Especially while making generalities yourself about me not reading or watching "right wing propoganda"
Taking the intellectual (and outright) dishonesty to whole new levels, I see. I never lumped everyone working in coal mins as living on the government dole. In fact those people would obviously not be living on the government dole, since they're working in the mines.
Pathetic.
You should stick to making completely unsubstantiated claims about vaguely defined groups of people.
they hate anything money is spent on other than their self's. just has Europe does but I the current situation they find themselves they to may learn; whose your ally and whose your real enemy.
That is actually the perfect description of the RIGHT-WING NEO-CONS! I don't know of a single leftist who can stand the Islamists!
Taking the intellectual (and outright) dishonesty to whole new levels, I see. I never lumped everyone working in coal mins as living on the government dole. In fact those people would obviously not be living on the government dole, since they're working in the mines.
Pathetic.
You should stick to making completely unsubstantiated claims about vaguely defined groups of people.
Islam is a religion, just like Christianity. All Muslims are not extremists any more than all Christians are.
Saying that all Muslims should be considered evil because of 9/11 ans Al Quaeda is like saying all Christians are evil because Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and Adolph Hitler were Christians.
1) Islam is a religion, just like Christianity. All Muslims are not extremists any more than all Christians are.
A point commonly made by the left. The problem is that if you study Islam, as a religion, is not really like other religions. This isn't the place to discuss how and why it is different, but when people say that Islam is no different than any other religion, that is a clear sign that they really haven't studied Islam.
2) Saying that all Muslims should be considered evil because of 9/11 ans Al Quaeda is like saying all Christians are evil because Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and Adolph Hitler were Christians.
I understand the idea, but the problem with this very common argument is that numbers do matter. McVeigh, Nicols and the few people who have blown up abortion clinics are a very small number.
There are thought to be 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. I have read estimates that as much as 10% of the Muslim population could be sympathetic to radical Islam. If that is the case, that means there are 160 million adherents of the religion that are sympathetic to wanton violence against innocents. To me, that it truly terrifying and cannot be compared in any way to other modern religions. Even assuming that only 1% are radicalized, that still leaves 16 million people in the world that think that shooting, bombing and beheading people that aren't of their religion is a great idea. Again... scary.
The TL;DR point is that while we can point to examples of violent people in all groups, total numbers do matter.
Islam is a religion, just like Christianity. All Muslims are not extremists any more than all Christians are.
Saying that all Muslims should be considered evil because of 9/11 ans Al Quaeda is like saying all Christians are evil because Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and Adolph Hitler were Christians.
Sigh... here we go again. Does anyone here look at biographical history? Ever?
McVeigh and Hitler were not Christians. They were born into Catholic households, but later basically became agnostic. So they were not Christian, and their motives were not based in religion.
As to Nichols, documentation states he converted in jail... which can only mean that prior he was not Christian.
What's next, Stalin and Mussolini were good Christians and not atheists? Good grief...
There are extremists in all religions. I have sympathy for those that are peaceful. Honestly, how many wars would be fought if there was no religion. I think the world would be peaceful.
There are extremists in all religions. I have sympathy for those that are peaceful. Honestly, how many wars would be fought if there was no religion. I think the world would be peaceful.
Wouldn't be peaceful, the excuse would just change. I think it is in our nature as humans.
Wouldn't be peaceful, the excuse would just change. I think it is in our nature as humans.
No it wouldn't. Religion has always caused wars.
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I don't know of a single leftist who can stand the Islamists!
