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Old 01-13-2015, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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I don't understand a group of people who don't like their homeland, leave to another country, and then want to mold it into their homeland. They need to assimilate.
Take a look at any specific state forum. You will find countless posts from people talking about how things were done in whatever state they moved from compared to where they now live.
People that have relocated from California have a particularly bad reputation for this.

It is the nature of humans to want things the way they want them.

The man mentioned in the OP expressed his opinion. The majority clearly disagreed and acted accordingly.

Have to say though, that it seems to me that there have to be quite a few people who must agree with his position regarding curfews for kids and limited exposure to certain magazines, etc.
Had he argued simply from the position of "lost morals," etc. as so many are wont to do, would his request have been so offensive?
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Old 01-13-2015, 10:46 AM
 
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Can anyone guarantee that the US in the future, wont see segregated Muslim communities? Communities with Sharia law, their own courts and no go zones like in France.
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Old 01-13-2015, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Can anyone guarantee that the US in the future, wont see segregated Muslim communities? Communities with Sharia law, their own courts and no go zones like in France.
It really depends on who is in power and how far this country goes to promote multiculturalism.
So far we're sticking to our Constitution.
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Old 01-13-2015, 10:58 AM
 
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Can anyone guarantee that the US in the future, wont see segregated Muslim communities? Communities with Sharia law, their own courts and no go zones like in France.
First of all, sharia law isn't the boogeyman you think. Eating restrictions that Muslims follow are no different from eating restrictions that Christians or Jews follow. Contract restrictions are between the parties involved. Criminal punishments are different. The Constitution and the laws of each state have to be followed, rather than religious prescriptions, and while people of various faiths, (I'm thinking not only of Fundamentalist Muslims, but other fundamentalists, like Fundamentalist Mormons) might want to impose their religions beliefs on the criminal justice system, they are actually prohibited from doing so. And "their own courts" is a misnomer. People agree to have their cases heard in these alternative venues, alternative venues that help relieve some of the caseload on overburdened systems, and these alternative venues are set up to hear civil matters, like contract disputes and divorces, not criminal matters.
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Old 01-13-2015, 11:09 AM
 
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Can anyone guarantee that the US in the future, wont see segregated Muslim communities? Communities with Sharia law, their own courts and no go zones like in France.
I can't see it getting to something formalized like you're talking about because of the Constution and the complete subjugation of our system that would require. It could happen to an extent informally. We already have neighborhoods where police are reluctant to patrol because of street crime where gangs etc. have their own rules in place though they are still subject to our laws. There could be areas that functioned with their own "street" rules that were more consistent with Sharia than those currently enforced by criminal elements.
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Old 01-13-2015, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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First of all, sharia law isn't the boogeyman you think. Eating restrictions that Muslims follow are no different from eating restrictions that Christians or Jews follow. Contract restrictions are between the parties involved. Criminal punishments are different. The Constitution and the laws of each state have to be followed, rather than religious prescriptions, and while people of various faiths, (I'm thinking not only of Fundamentalist Muslims, but other fundamentalists, like Fundamentalist Mormons) might want to impose their religions beliefs on the criminal justice system, they are actually prohibited from doing so. And "their own courts" is a misnomer. People agree to have their cases heard in these alternative venues, alternative venues that help relieve some of the caseload on overburdened systems, and these alternative venues are set up to hear civil matters, like contract disputes and divorces, not criminal matters.
Most westerners associate Sharia Law with intolerance and brutal punishment.

Like anything else, Sharia is subject to interpretation.

Most Muslims and Muslim majority countries do not engage in extreme interpretations.

A guy expresses his opinion in a public meeting and all of a sudden, OMG, the Muslims are trying to impose the extreme interpretation of Sharia on the entire country.

Would this have been news if the guy was named Joe Blow and referred to the bible?
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Old 01-13-2015, 11:16 AM
 
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Wow, ONE Muslim requests something ridiculous and all of a sudden he represents ALL Muslims in America. Seriously. Since the city council adhered to his request I can see why the OP is so upset. NOT. Get a grip...
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Old 01-13-2015, 12:32 PM
 
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Most westerners associate Sharia Law with intolerance and brutal punishment.

Like anything else, Sharia is subject to interpretation.

Most Muslims and Muslim majority countries do not engage in extreme interpretations.

A guy expresses his opinion in a public meeting and all of a sudden, OMG, the Muslims are trying to impose the extreme interpretation of Sharia on the entire country.

Would this have been news if the guy was named Joe Blow and referred to the bible?
Bible does NOT have Sharia law. Christianity does not permit stoning people to death, nor against pornography, alcohol, dietary restrictions or anything else associated with Islam and Sharia law.
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Old 01-13-2015, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Mr. Hassan, I would like to introduce you to the FBI.
Exactly.
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Old 01-13-2015, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Most westerners associate Sharia Law with intolerance and brutal punishment.

Like anything else, Sharia is subject to interpretation.

Most Muslims and Muslim majority countries do not engage in extreme interpretations.

A guy expresses his opinion in a public meeting and all of a sudden, OMG, the Muslims are trying to impose the extreme interpretation of Sharia on the entire country.

Would this have been news if the guy was named Joe Blow and referred to the bible?
The Bible is a book of moral code, not a set of religious laws.
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