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Old 01-14-2015, 10:59 AM
 
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No matter what happens, they continue to recommend a carbon tax to fix it. It is a solution searching for a problem to glom on to.

And even if all the taxes that they want were to be passed, do not expect to see anything done that actually alters the climate of the Earth from what it would have otherwise been. That is not going to happen.
Well, the goal isn't to "fix the problem", it's to have greater economic control.

If the problem was a company putting poison in children's candy, they UN would say the best way to fix it is to add a tax to that candy. This is how you can tell it's a scam (the tax "cure" that is).
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Old 01-14-2015, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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That study is from last year, but still good news that volcanoes have an impact on global warming. The last 15 years have been fairly flat but we still have the highest temperatures on record for over 100 years.

Global Warming : Feature Articles


Study: Volcanoes contribute to recent warming

Kudos to the OP for using a scientific article from MIT but I don't think we want to rely on volcanic activity to reduce the warming rate.
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Old 01-14-2015, 11:58 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The lesson to be learned here is that scientists (you know, the ones who have known everything about how our climate works for a couple of decades now) keep finding out that there are lot's of different components that affect our climate.

This "settled science" seems to be based on a lot of assumptions.


No, far from it.

Scientist know the climate moves in cycles and is never static, but very dynamic.
Knowing that and using the stupidity of those that are young and have no clue, they will take the cooling cycle or the warming cycle and push a get rich quick scheme for some government. The grants pour in for the scam to be perpetuate, by "the smart guys"
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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What's ridiculous is that people look at year over year temperatures, or even decade over decade, and think that they can discern what's going on.

Newsflash: A full human lifetime is but a blink of an eye on geologic time. Anyone comparing temperatures year by year and then making any kind of claim, either way, obviously doesn't understand this relatively simple concept, and only serves to demonstrate that this issue has almost nothing to do with science, and everything to do with politics.

Think about it, people.
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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What's ridiculous is that people look at year over year temperatures, or even decade over decade, and think that they can discern what's going on.

Newsflash: A full human lifetime is but a blink of an eye on geologic time. Anyone comparing temperatures year by year and then making any kind of claim, either way, obviously doesn't understand this relatively simple concept, and only serves to demonstrate that this issue has almost nothing to do with science, and everything to do with politics.

Think about it, people.
How about 7,000 years, or three million years? Would that count?
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:08 PM
 
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What's ridiculous is that people look at year over year temperatures, or even decade over decade, and think that they can discern what's going on.

Newsflash: A full human lifetime is but a blink of an eye on geologic time. Anyone comparing temperatures year by year and then making any kind of claim, either way, obviously doesn't understand this relatively simple concept, and only serves to demonstrate that this issue has almost nothing to do with science, and everything to do with politics.

Think about it, people.
I agree. That is why scientists look at tree rings, drill into the ice of Greenland and Antarctica, and other measures.

As for the politics: no doubt it has become a political tool for some. However, the 'greenhouse effect' was first theorized back in the 1820s, and I doubt that 'politics' was an issue at that time.
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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No, far from it.

Scientist know the climate moves in cycles and is never static, but very dynamic.
Knowing that and using the stupidity of those that are young and have no clue, they will take the cooling cycle or the warming cycle and push a get rich quick scheme for some government. The grants pour in for the scam to be perpetuate, by "the smart guys"
Scientists also know what causes the earth to cool or warm, and they know which of these causes exist or do not exist today. Do you actually think the scientist's salaries are decided on how large the research grants are?
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Old 01-14-2015, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Where you aren't
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Congress is going to install flapper valves on the volcanos so they can control the eruptions to just the right amount.
That would be too funny to actually see a flapper valve on a volcano. Wonder what happens when the flapper valve malfunctions.
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Old 01-14-2015, 01:19 PM
 
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That would be too funny to actually see a flapper valve on a volcano. Wonder what happens when the flapper valve malfunctions.
Lava....lava everywhere....
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Old 01-14-2015, 01:28 PM
 
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Cue a bunch of denialists crowing about proof that the thing they insisted wasn't happening is now done not happening.
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