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Old 01-16-2015, 08:48 AM
 
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When did this call for prayer over a loud speaker start? They didnt have loud speakers back in the stone ages. It must be a more modern thing.
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:51 AM
 
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Duke University, founded originally by a Christian church previously said they will allow Islamic call to prayer from a church tower out loud in public saying "there is no God but Allah, Muhammad is his messenger" in Arabic which is common in Muslim countries. Since it angered many people, and that this college would favor Islam over all other religions and none; they reversed their decision. No more Islamic call to prayer!

Why even allow it from the first place?!


Duke reverses decision to allow Muslim call to prayer - CNN.com
Does the Duke campus have any church bells that ring out? Wouldn't that be the same as the 'call to prayer' ?
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:52 AM
 
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It is just another way of claiming victory over the infidels (Blue Devil's)without erecting a shrine by using our own symbol of worship for Muslims call to prayer...move over student body Sharia Law will be held in Mike Krzyzewski's (Basketball) court! LOL!
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Does the Duke campus have any church bells that ring out? Wouldn't that be the same as the 'call to prayer' ?
As I understand it Duke was a Methodist run campus and as they moved away from the Anglican and Catholic root the bells were one of the things dropped.
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:01 AM
 
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The bunch of wimps should have stood by their decision.
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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As I understand it Duke was a Methodist run campus and as they moved away from the Anglican and Catholic root the bells were one of the things dropped.
The chapel bells at Duke ring at least every day I believe.
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I would say a school started by Christians would be foolish to allow Muslims to claim Allah as the true God......this would certainly look strange. Prayer is one thing claiming......"there is no God but Allah, Muhammad is his messenger" is not what we all believe.

Schools are not for this kind of freedom....... Church belongs a mosques and churches, not our schools.
Duke is a private university. They can mix religion and education any way they want.

I think it was a bad idea though - it opens a can of worms where other religious groups will ask for consideration and Duke will be forced to pick and choose or say anything goes. I also think it is rather absurd to obviously broadcast a call to prayer across the campus.
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Since no other religions have call to prayer, Islam shouldn't then either loudly through a speaker at a predominately Christian society in a private non-sectarian Christian university scream out "There's no God but Allah, Muhammad is his messenger" when 95% of the University student do not believe in Muhammad, or some who don't believe in Allah.

Actually you could have Lord's Prayer loud as well. Fine with that? Shouldn't even have asked because it's private non-sectarian Christian university where the symbol/icon of the university has a cross on it..
I revised my post to create the analogy between the Muslim " Call to Prayer" and the original significance of church bells. The school does ring bells three times a day which is a call to believers to recite the Lord's Prayer.

One of the Pillars of Muslim faith is a 5 X a day call to prayer. The school made a poorly timed decision to acknowledge their Muslim students with a once a week " Call to Prayer". Reportedly, the school's admin received threats of violence should they persist with the intention. Billy Graham's son implored people to express their outrage and withhold funding.

Allah is the Arabic word for God and not limited to Islam.

It's a private school. They could have sustained their original purpose, Methodist education or given their desire to appeal to the widest audience of qualified students and thus the migrated to a non- secretarian basis, they could have separated church and school. Instead, the school made a business decision to accommodate all faiths. A huge cluster fudge.
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I would say a school started by Christians would be foolish to allow Muslims to claim Allah as the true God......this would certainly look strange. Prayer is one thing claiming......"there is no God but Allah, Muhammad is his messenger" is not what we all believe.

Schools are not for this kind of freedom....... Church belongs a mosques and churches, not our schools.
Allah is the Arabic word for God and is not limited to Islam.
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:23 AM
 
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The horror! How dare he!
Some of us praise Graham and others diss the man for standing up to radical Islam. Moderates would realize the University is Christian based. Those with blinders will be the death of America, asking adults to get an education, rather than being overwhelmed with all religions must be just to hard to ask.
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