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Old 01-19-2015, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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I mean no snark, here. Would you share with us some of the more recent regulations which require your compliance.


As an aside, I recently replaced my front door. Because my house is 50 years old, I had to disclose if I had any knowledge if the frame had ever tested positive for lead paint. The installer was then required to test the paint on the existing frame to determine if it contained lead paint. It did not.

This requirement meant the installer would not be exposed to lead paint and therefore could not make claim against his small business employer or me for lead poisoning, down the road.

So much of " red tape" came about as a result of prior litigation that clogs our legal systems.

I hate to disturb you but a lot of materials that were once in wide spread use turn out to be toxic , cause cancers, give you what we now call Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, cause nerve damage, ensure you offspring will be developmentally disabled, sterilize you etc etc etc. If you think this is such a good idea, so be it but don't go on the public dole as a consequence of getting a really costly medical problem.

There are tens of millions of Americans costing us hundreds of billions of dollars already.
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Old 01-19-2015, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I hate to disturb you but a lot of materials that were once in wide spread use turn out to be toxic , cause cancers, give you what we now call Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, cause nerve damage, ensure you offspring will be developmentally disabled, sterilize you etc etc etc. If you think this is such a good idea, so be it but don't go on the public dole as a consequence of getting a really costly medical problem.

There are tens of millions of Americans costing us hundreds of billions of dollars already.
I was not knocking the requirement for lead paint discloure/ testing. My experience as a consumer was that the disclosre and test took a matter of munutes. It was no big deal. The business owner however, miay have considered it a burden or an intrusion by big bad government.

While I have no doubt there are some goofy regulations, most have sound reasons and protect the business owner, workers and consumers.

Some who post here seriously resent authority of any kind .It's challenging to acquire an appreciation for what they deem a buden without specifics.
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Old 01-19-2015, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
I mean no snark, here. Would you share with us some of the more recent regulations which require your compliance.


As an aside, I recently replaced my front door. Because my house is 50 years old, I had to disclose if I had any knowledge if the frame had ever tested positive for lead paint. The installer was then required to test the paint on the existing frame to determine if it contained lead paint. It did not.

This requirement meant the installer would not be exposed to lead paint and therefore could not make claim against his small business employer or me for lead poisoning, down the road.

So much of " red tape" came about as a result of prior litigation that clogs our legal systems.
When you sell a house here you have to do a lead paint disclosure. I think it's based on when the house was built.
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Old 01-19-2015, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Small businesses are not increasing much for a couple of reasons. The first is the continual onslaught of new regulations and rules coming from government. The second biggest discouragement is Obamacare. But it could also be that some new businesses are not showing up on the books. With so many rules and restrictions, I think there will be growth in the underground economy. Work will be off the books, untaxed and unregulated. Lawn care, home improvements, janitorial etc.
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Old 01-19-2015, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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When you sell a house here you have to do a lead paint disclosure. I think it's based on when the house was built.
Yes, there are a bevy of federal, state, county and municipality disclosures associated with the sale of property.

Again, my intent here is to better understand regulations that some consider a burden.
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Old 01-19-2015, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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That is not killing small business. Requiring them to have the same mandates to operate as the multi-nationals and big corporates is what kills them before they even get off the ground.

Yeah, yeah, yeah..it's all done to keep you safe. Well it's the big boyz that get you sick isn't it ?
And they were the ones that called for heavy regulation against the small business owners.

And now the big boyz have fronts that are "small business" selling to the consumer and you folks are lapping it up.
I owned a small business for 17 years, and I had far fewer mandates than a large business of the same kind. I know that for a fact because after I closed my shop, I worked for a while for a large multi-state company doing the same job I did when I was my own boss.

Most of the mandates that any business must abide depends on the size of the biz. In my business, my insurance company laid down more mandates that the local government, state or feds ever did by far. The insurance company was also much readier to come and look my place over to see if they were being obeyed, too.

The fact is: the smaller the business, the more prone it is to suffering deeply when there is a recession or any downturn. The small businesses simply don't have the depth of resources or finances to keep them going through a prolonged recessionary period, and if a biz does survive, it will require a lot longer to become financially healthy again when the recession ends.

Things may be different in Texas, but I doubt Texas makes things over-difficult for small biz development. Most states do not, nor do most counties or cities. Trying to blame the hundreds of reasons why a small business owner quits is remarkably silly if the excuse is blaming government regulations. It simply ain't so, Joe.

If it was, the huge businesses wouldn't spend so much time and effort trying to find ways to dodge the regulations that size only creates. The fact is even most of them find it easier to abide rather than try to stack the regulation deck in their favor.

I fully expect to see smaller businesses take over as the paradigm of the 21st century. Once the banks that were too big to fail failed, they took down the big box model with them, along with a lot of the other late 20th century nonsense that came from becoming too big.

Don't expect the big guys to try to hang onto a losing business model for very long nowadays. All of a sudden there is the rest of the world that is ready to compete with them, and they know it. They never gained ground in the 20th century by dragging the small biz owners down; all they did was overpower them in the retail sector with prices and choices the little outfits couldn't match.

The retail sector is only one of many sectors in the business world. My entire career was supplying other businesses, so if a few businesses that used me caught a cold, I developed double pneumonia.
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Old 01-20-2015, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yes, there are a bevy of federal, state, county and municipality disclosures associated with the sale of property.

Again, my intent here is to better understand regulations that some consider a burden.
I don't understand the need to understand them? Is it because you don't think its a burden and want to know why others think it is a burden? Burden to the customer or the owner of the business?
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Old 01-20-2015, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I owned a small business for 17 years, and I had far fewer mandates than a large business of the same kind. I know that for a fact because after I closed my shop, I worked for a while for a large multi-state company doing the same job I did when I was my own boss.

Most of the mandates that any business must abide depends on the size of the biz. In my business, my insurance company laid down more mandates that the local government, state or feds ever did by far. The insurance company was also much readier to come and look my place over to see if they were being obeyed, too.

The fact is: the smaller the business, the more prone it is to suffering deeply when there is a recession or any downturn. The small businesses simply don't have the depth of resources or finances to keep them going through a prolonged recessionary period, and if a biz does survive, it will require a lot longer to become financially healthy again when the recession ends.

Things may be different in Texas, but I doubt Texas makes things over-difficult for small biz development. Most states do not, nor do most counties or cities. Trying to blame the hundreds of reasons why a small business owner quits is remarkably silly if the excuse is blaming government regulations. It simply ain't so, Joe.

If it was, the huge businesses wouldn't spend so much time and effort trying to find ways to dodge the regulations that size only creates. The fact is even most of them find it easier to abide rather than try to stack the regulation deck in their favor.

I fully expect to see smaller businesses take over as the paradigm of the 21st century. Once the banks that were too big to fail failed, they took down the big box model with them, along with a lot of the other late 20th century nonsense that came from becoming too big.

Don't expect the big guys to try to hang onto a losing business model for very long nowadays. All of a sudden there is the rest of the world that is ready to compete with them, and they know it. They never gained ground in the 20th century by dragging the small biz owners down; all they did was overpower them in the retail sector with prices and choices the little outfits couldn't match.

The retail sector is only one of many sectors in the business world. My entire career was supplying other businesses, so if a few businesses that used me caught a cold, I developed double pneumonia.
My experience is the opposite and you even mentioned it too as far as money. Small businesses can't cover the costs of regulation.
Why does the size of the business matter as far as the regulations being applicable or not? For the most part aren't regulations the same. I know the ones that concern safety are.

And as far as large businesses trying to dodge regulations? Who do you think helps with setting them? Big business does! And some profit from the regulations more than others.

Remember the New York ban on soft drinks? Starbucks gets special treatment too, as the ban arbitrarily exempts certain drinks containing “milk and milk substitutes.” Yet, the coffee chain’s 20-oz peppermint white chocolate mocha (legal) contains almost 50 percent more sugar than a 20-oz Coke (illegal).

The “Affordable Care Act” provides waivers to big corporations like Wal-Mart and McDonald’s, who—unlike their smaller rivals—can afford to keep squadrons of lobbyists in Washington to suggest favorable tweaks to the law.
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Old 01-20-2015, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Small Business Is Dying in the US

Maybe because bigger businesses are buying out competitors?
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Old 01-20-2015, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Maybe because bigger businesses are buying out competitors?
One way is check out small business start ups. I'm not saying you'll check it out since you rely on making things up instead of research "you mad bro you".

How many employees are needed to be considered small business? SBA says under 500. 450 employess doesn't seem like a small business. Even 50 is high for a Mom and Pop store imo.
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