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Old 01-18-2015, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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"The first step in solving a problem is to recognize that it does exist" - Zig Ziglar
Science by Consensus is not Science and that's a problem.

When are you going to recognize that?.....


Mircea
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Old 01-18-2015, 06:35 PM
 
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I love seeing the same cultists showing up in these threads chanting the same mantra. The members of the Church of AGW are as dangerous to humanity as the radicals in islam.
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Old 01-18-2015, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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This is certainly not the way to go... Sen. Ted Cruz, a climate change denier, will oversee NASA. What can go wrong? | National Post

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The last 15 years, there has been no recorded warming. Contrary to all the theories that—that they are expounding, there should have been warming over the last 15 years. It hasn’t happened....Ted Cruz
This is, to put it mildly, what comes out of the south end of a north-facing bull.

This is as close to the analogy of putting the fox in charge of the hen house that there is. It would be as ludicrous as putting the rabidly anti-science Sen. James Inhofe (R-Oklahoma) in charge of the committee that oversees the Environmental Protection Agency.


Oh, wait...........
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Old 01-18-2015, 06:44 PM
 
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Because it doesn't support your theory.
My theory? Just because you take these things personally doesn't mean I do. It's not my theory.
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If they were the hottest ten years in recorded history, you'd be saying just the opposite I'm sure.
Riiiight. Now tell me what I'm having for dinner.

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I mean after all, there were numerous outcries about global warming being responsible for Hurricane Sandy.

When a weather pattern supports global warming, it's due to global warming. When a weather pattern doesn't support global warming, it's a meaningless anomaly.
Orly? So, when it is, it is, and when it isn't, it isn't. That's brilliant!

Ten years is scientifically meaningless. Take what you want from that, but leave the mind reading to the psychotics...I mean the psychics.
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Old 01-18-2015, 06:45 PM
 
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Science by Consensus is not Science and that's a problem.

When are you going to recognize that?.....


Mircea
That must be why so many scientists keep trying to prove that gravity doesn't exist.
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Old 01-18-2015, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I suggest that climate deniers move to North Carolina where climate change has been outlawed.....You can fool yourself that you'll be safe there.... The words we use matter in climate change adaptation | Southern Fried Science
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Old 01-18-2015, 07:05 PM
 
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● HYPOTHESIS - A tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon, or scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation.
● CONJECTURE - Opinion or judgment based on inconclusive or incomplete evidence; guesswork.
● PREDICTION - something predicted; a forecast, prophecy, etc.

We can all agree that since the 1970s, “Climate Scientists” have been offering predictions based on conjecture, that have not come to pass.

By definition, making predictions of future climate is conjecture (guesswork) and not part of the “scientific method.” Even computer models are still conjecture, though sophisticated.

So far, “Climate Change” (cooling / warming / intensity of storms) has not been “scientifically proven” to be significantly affected by human activity.

To argue that there are insufficient facts in evidence to support anthropogenic climate change is not “denial,” but scientific skepticism, which is part of the scientific method. Any scientist who offers an opinion based on BELIEF is not following the SCIENTIFIC METHOD. Ditto, for “Climate Scientists.”

Science is not based on BELIEF, but upon systematic observation, measurement, and experimentation, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses (tentative explanations).

Those who shout invectives at skeptics are the real science deniers.
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Old 01-18-2015, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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● HYPOTHESIS - A tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon, or scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation.
● CONJECTURE - Opinion or judgment based on inconclusive or incomplete evidence; guesswork.
● PREDICTION - something predicted; a forecast, prophecy, etc.

We can all agree that since the 1970s, “Climate Scientists” have been offering predictions based on conjecture, that have not come to pass.

By definition, making predictions of future climate is conjecture (guesswork) and not part of the “scientific method.” Even computer models are still conjecture, though sophisticated.

So far, “Climate Change” (cooling / warming / intensity of storms) has not been “scientifically proven” to be significantly affected by human activity.

To argue that there are insufficient facts in evidence to support anthropogenic climate change is not “denial,” but scientific skepticism, which is part of the scientific method. Any scientist who offers an opinion based on BELIEF is not following the SCIENTIFIC METHOD. Ditto, for “Climate Scientists.”

Science is not based on BELIEF, but upon systematic observation, measurement, and experimentation, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses (tentative explanations).

Those who shout invectives at skeptics are the real science deniers.
Climate science predicted land and ocean temps would rise, glaciers and ice caps would lose ice, permafrost will melt, sea levels would rise and become more acidic, animals and plants would migrate to cooler climates, wet places will get wetter and dry places dryer, wildfires will increase, winters will be shorter, and storms will be more severe.....All of these are happening today.....The days of climate change denial fooling the masses are over.
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Old 01-18-2015, 07:48 PM
 
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Climate science predicted land and ocean temps would rise, glaciers and ice caps would lose ice, permafrost will melt, sea levels would rise and become more acidic, animals and plants would migrate to cooler climates, wet places will get wetter and dry places dryer, wildfires will increase, winters will be shorter, and storms will be more severe.....All of these are happening today.....The days of climate change denial fooling the masses are over.
No, they didn't.
Climate change is not the same as anthropogenic climate change.
The facts do not support the claim that man's activities are changing the climate significantly.

The fact that the #1 greenhouse gas is water vapor is always glossed over by the AGC alarmists.
That is the major factor in the Earth's albedo, and thus affects the impact of solar radiation.
CO2 is not a driving factor. In fact, it follows temperature changes, not induces them.
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Old 01-18-2015, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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No, they didn't.
Climate change is not the same as anthropogenic climate change.
The facts do not support the claim that man's activities are changing the climate significantly.

The fact that the #1 greenhouse gas is water vapor is always glossed over by the AGC alarmists.
That is the major factor in the Earth's albedo, and thus affects the impact of solar radiation.
CO2 is not a driving factor. In fact, it follows temperature changes, not induces them.
Water vapour is not "glossed over" by science, but is a well known feedback affect of a warming climate caused by increases of green house gases....In any case more cloud cover would slow warming, not increase it....It's time to stop believing the bull crap you've been reading on blogs and try learning science basics...It takes heat to evaporate water, more heat = more evaporation, more clouds and more precipitation.... Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: Earth System Science

CO2 precedes increases in temperature....Your blogs are wrong... http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture10915.html

Earths albedo is the reflectivity of the earth's surface, and nothing to do with water vapour....

Albedo is the fraction of solar energy reflected from the Earth back into space. It is a measure of the reflectivity of the earth's surface. A light surface (snow or ice) reflects more energy back into space than a dark surface (open water or bare land? https://www.nc-climate.ncsu.edu/edu/k12/.albedo
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