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Old 01-24-2015, 12:52 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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In looking for one of my old posts for a reason unrelated to this topic, I came across this post made a few weeks after Obama first took office in 2009. The Thread topic was "Where is the unity Obama spoke of in his campaign?" I'm quoting my own old post about Obama and Alinsky:

"Obama was a community organizer with Saul Alinsky as his role model (Hillary Clinton wrote her senior thesis on him). Alinsky outlined some tactics to achieve his socialist (redistribution of wealth) agenda: Agitate, Aggravate, Educate, Organize.

Stir the pain of economic suffering/create economic dissatifaction. Make them angry at the "haves" for their personal situation. Identify pain, stir them up, then dangle the promise of hope to organize them. Ridicule your opponents so people laugh at them instead of listening to them. Convince the middle class to side with the organizer leading to their own middle class self-destruction by acting like you are listening to them. Make them think they are aimless, confused, to be pitied. Alinsky told organizers to use the language of the community to move people in the way the community organizer wanted them to move and to ditch the terminology people might find distasteful. Show good manners and outwardly show respect for their religious beliefs so the middle class will listen to you. Be condescending, not confrontational.

"Rub raw the resentments of the people of a community." Alinsky - "Rules for Radicals" Does that sound like "why can't we all get along?"

Alinsky's mantra was "change," too.

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ml#post8010265

So now it's 6 years later. Stir the pain of economic suffering? Make them angry at the "haves" for their personal situation? Identify pain, stir them up then dangle the promise of hope? Ridicule your opponents so people laugh at them instead of listening to them? Convince the middle class to side with the organizer leading to their own middle class destruction? Ditch terminology people might find distasteful and use the language of the community? Outwardly show respect for their religious beliefs so the middle class will listen to you?

I'd say in 2015, Obama is doing a swell job following the Alinsky blueprint.
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Old 01-24-2015, 01:00 AM
 
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Change is brought about through relentless agitation and “trouble making” of a kind that radically disrupts society as it is.
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Old 01-24-2015, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default How is Obama Doing With The Alinsky Plan?

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I'd say in 2015, Obama is doing a swell job following the Alinsky blueprint.
Tell me more about Obama's "Alinsky Plan" that you speak of.
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Old 01-24-2015, 06:27 AM
 
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I had a good chuckle over this thread. Raising taxes on the rich to Reagan levels but far below the 90% tax rate of the Eisenhower era is somehow "socialist.". Take a Xanax and settle down.
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Old 01-24-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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Tell me more about Obama's "Alinsky Plan" that you speak of.
What is the matter are you not computer savvy enough to look it up yourself?

Here it is: Six Alinsky Rules That Explain Obama
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Old 01-24-2015, 09:04 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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In looking for one of my old posts for a reason unrelated to this topic, I came across this post made a few weeks after Obama first took office in 2009. The Thread topic was "Where is the unity Obama spoke of in his campaign?" I'm quoting my own old post about Obama and Alinsky:

"Obama was a community organizer with Saul Alinsky as his role model (Hillary Clinton wrote her senior thesis on him). Alinsky outlined some tactics to achieve his socialist (redistribution of wealth) agenda: Agitate, Aggravate, Educate, Organize.

Stir the pain of economic suffering/create economic dissatifaction. Make them angry at the "haves" for their personal situation. Identify pain, stir them up, then dangle the promise of hope to organize them. Ridicule your opponents so people laugh at them instead of listening to them. Convince the middle class to side with the organizer leading to their own middle class self-destruction by acting like you are listening to them. Make them think they are aimless, confused, to be pitied. Alinsky told organizers to use the language of the community to move people in the way the community organizer wanted them to move and to ditch the terminology people might find distasteful. Show good manners and outwardly show respect for their religious beliefs so the middle class will listen to you. Be condescending, not confrontational.

"Rub raw the resentments of the people of a community." Alinsky - "Rules for Radicals" Does that sound like "why can't we all get along?"

Alinsky's mantra was "change," too.

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ml#post8010265

So now it's 6 years later. Stir the pain of economic suffering? Make them angry at the "haves" for their personal situation? Identify pain, stir them up then dangle the promise of hope? Ridicule your opponents so people laugh at them instead of listening to them? Convince the middle class to side with the organizer leading to their own middle class destruction? Ditch terminology people might find distasteful and use the language of the community? Outwardly show respect for their religious beliefs so the middle class will listen to you?

I'd say in 2015, Obama is doing a swell job following the Alinsky blueprint.
So who was harping on Alinsky on Fox this week?

I think this post is what ignorant people think intellectuals sound like...
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Old 01-24-2015, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb thanks for sharing

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What is the matter are you not computer savvy enough to look it up yourself?

Here it is: Six Alinsky Rules That Explain Obama
Should be six right wing talking points aimed at amping up phony outrage.
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Old 01-24-2015, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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Other than Jesus, has there ever been a dead Jew that has caused so much obsession in our nation's right wing?
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Old 01-24-2015, 09:17 AM
 
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Stir the pain of economic suffering.
Because no one would notice that they are underpaid/underemployed and barely able to make ends meet if not for Obama/Democrats pointing it out to them? Seriously?

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Convince the middle class to side with the organizer leading to their own middle class self-destruction by acting like you are listening to them.
Sounds like far right wing politicians and their policies.

The same can be said of your entire laundry list. That's because the right uses the exact same tactics on its opponents as the left does. It's called politics. The only difference is the left hasn't attached a name to it in order to use it to rile up and terrify their base. Hey, that's an Alinsky tactic!! Well done, right wingers!

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I had a good chuckle over this thread. Raising taxes on the rich to Reagan levels but far below the 90% tax rate of the Eisenhower era is somehow "socialist.". Take a Xanax and settle down.
I chuckled at the title of the thread, too. Alinsky is one of the far right's code words, a boogie man of their own creation that they use to scare all the good little right wingers with. I'm sure Tea Partiers check under their beds and in their closets every night before they climb into bed to make sure no Alinskies are lurking there, ready to pounce.

This is funny, funny stuff, OP. Thanks for starting my day off with a hearty laugh.
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Old 01-24-2015, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Because no one would notice that they are underpaid/underemployed and barely able to make ends meet if not for Obama/Democrats pointing it out to them? Seriously?



Sounds like far right wing politicians and their policies.

The same can be said of your entire laundry list. That's because the right uses the exact same tactics on its opponents as the left does. It's called politics. The only difference is the left hasn't attached a name to it in order to use it to rile up and terrify their base. Hey, that's an Alinsky tactic!! Well done, right wingers!



I chuckled at the title of the thread, too. Alinsky is one of the far right's code words, a boogie man of their own creation that they use to scare all the good little right wingers with. I'm sure Tea Partiers check under their beds and in their closets every night before they climb into bed to make sure no Alinskies are lurking there, ready to pounce.

This is funny, funny stuff, OP. Thanks for starting my day off with a hearty laugh.
Replace "Alinsky" with "Ayn Rand", "far right" with "far left", and "right wingers" with "left wingers" and your statement remains accurate. Both sides have their boogeymen.
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