When are the bottom 50% going to start paying their fair share? (gas price, enemy)

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

It is, indeed. 2/3 of their tax revenue is received directly from regressive taxes:
The Liberal Left's Dirty Little Secret: The Middle Class and Poor Pay For the Entitlement State

Data source: OECD

So, you favor tripling of the sales tax and hiking income tax on the poor?

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by greywar

Yawn. and benefits to the lower end?

Of course, there are more. That's the entire point... If the poor and middle class want more government benefits and services, they need to bear the brunt of the tax burden. The European model.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

So, you favor tripling of the sales tax and hiking income tax on the poor?

While giving them more government services and benefits, yes. The European model.

[petch751]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

How come those who complain the poor not paying enough taxes won't answer when I ask how much they want to raise their taxes?

OOH.. Ohh I'll answer.

How about government not raise anyone's taxes and learn how to handle and stop wasting the money they already get from us. In fact why not let us keep more of the money each of us busts our asses to earn.

The government takes it from you, before you who worked for it even get it. How about they stop being so damn greedy.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

While giving them more government services and benefits, yes. The European model.

Yes, it is the European model. They are happy with it since they consider it a fair deal.

[petch751]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

How come those who complain the poor not paying enough taxes won't answer when I ask how much they want to raise their taxes?

Anyone who thinks that giving more of the money we worked for to the government is the answer is a FOOL!

[greywar]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Of course, there are more. That's the entire point... If the poor and middle class want more government benefits and services, they need to bear the brunt of the tax burden. The European model.

LOL....I dont think you truly understand the european model. The taxes at the top would go up.

[Haakon]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Yes, it is the European model. They are happy with it since they consider it a fair deal.

While liberals in the US want something for nothing and have no idea what "fair" means. They don't know what 'rights', 'facts', 'worship' or 'free' mean either, but it all goes hand in hand.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by petch751

OOH.. Ohh I'll answer.

How about government not raise anyone's taxes and learn how to handle and stop wasting the money they already get from us.

ohhh....oooohhhh, then why do you go on about the poor not paying enough?

In fact why not let us keep more of the money each of us busts our asses to earn.

If they don't pay anything, then how can they keep more?

I think you type faster than you think.

The government takes it from you, before you who worked for it even get it. How about they stop being so damn greedy.

In my case I get paid, and then I pay the government when I am ready.

If the government kept what they collect, you could argue it is about greed, but since they do not keep it, it cannot be greed.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by Haakon

While liberals in the US want something for nothing and have no idea what "fair" means. They don't know what 'rights', 'facts', 'worship' or 'free' mean either, but it all goes hand in hand.

You have no idea, because you are not understanding the conversation.

We are talking about paying taxes, and since people pay taxes out of what they earn, your "for nothing" argument is illogical. The Europeans choose a system where they pay more in order to get more services, and they consider it a fair deal.