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View Poll Results: Do you hope the Supreme Court declares gay marriage a constitutional right?
Yes, because it is. 24 52.17%
Yes, because regardless of my views it'll help the GOP win 2 4.35%
No, my views are my views regardless of how people will vote 16 34.78%
No, this will not help come elections time 4 8.70%
Voters: 46. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-21-2015, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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And making medical decisions? Don't tell me a POA, since I have one and was still denied access to my fiancee in the hospital.

How about spousal immigration? No contract can do that one except a marriage license.

How about military spousal benefits like on base housing, commissary shopping, medical care? No contract will do that one either.

Why should heterosexual couples get special privileges and yes even special financial benefits and not same sex couples?

Why should married couples, gay or straight, get preferential treatment over single persons?

Obviously the solution is to get government out of marriage and leave it to the church. Everyone, married or single, deserves the same treatment.
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Well actually if you had read my post 26 in response to your post 18, you would see that I stated we will be paying higher federal and state taxes as married rather than single.

But why let a little thing like comprehension or reading get In the way of responding to a post.

Actually you aren't representative of the majority; the majority of married coupled benefit not just in taxes, but estate law, insurance discounts, and a host of other similar benefits that favor the married over the single.
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Why should married couples, gay or straight, get preferential treatment over single persons?

Obviously the solution is to get government out of marriage and leave it to the church. Everyone, married or single, deserves the same treatment.
That isn't going to happen. And I do find it odd that this whole "get the government out of marriage" thing was not really heard of before SSM started winning.
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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That isn't going to happen. And I do find it odd that this whole "get the government out of marriage" thing was not really heard of before SSM started winning.

Of course it was. The SSM crowd just wasn't listening. The catholic church has raised it for decades.
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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Actually you aren't representative of the majority; the majority of married coupled benefit not just in taxes, but estate law, insurance discounts, and a host of other similar benefits that favor the married over the single.
One right in particular that made me become a big supporter of same sex marriage was immigration sponsorship of a foreign spouse. Assuming you believe that marriage should be a criteria to sponsor a foreign spouse to the US, would you also support "friendship" a criteria for a single person to sponsor a friend to the US?
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Eastern UP of Michigan
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Actually you aren't representative of the majority; the majority of married coupled benefit not just in taxes, but estate law, insurance discounts, and a host of other similar benefits that favor the married over the single.

Thanks for the response. This makes sense then.
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:58 PM
 
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Thomas, Scalia and Alito will take the Catholic Church line and will not budge.

Rest of the court will do the right thing.
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Old 01-21-2015, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Of course it was. The SSM crowd just wasn't listening. The catholic church has raised it for decades.
Have a source for that, I have never heard it before a few years ago.
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Old 01-21-2015, 04:39 PM
 
Location: USA
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One right in particular that made me become a big supporter of same sex marriage was immigration sponsorship of a foreign spouse. Assuming you believe that marriage should be a criteria to sponsor a foreign spouse to the US, would you also support "friendship" a criteria for a single person to sponsor a friend to the US?
"One right in particular that made me become a big supporter of same sex marriage was immigration sponsorship of a foreign spouse"
Gives Mail order Bride/Husband a whole new meaning. I can see some Russian mail order brides chomping at the bit at doubling their chance of getting American Citzenship
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Old 01-21-2015, 04:52 PM
 
Location: North America
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Why should married couples, gay or straight, get preferential treatment over single persons?

Obviously the solution is to get government out of marriage and leave it to the church. Everyone, married or single, deserves the same treatment.
Cute, but marriage predates the church by several thousand years .
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