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Old 01-20-2015, 05:48 PM
 
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I was responding to Mason3000 who gave a bizarre story about a conversation with his doctor. I don't know what on earth you're talking about, being reported.
If you do not HAVE a doctor, you will not have to put up with BS about getting this vax and that vax.

 
Old 01-20-2015, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Re:the bold-what ChrisFromChicago said. This is not an issue of "is red prettier than blue?" It's not a matter of debate, or belief. It's science!

Re-the rest of this post: It's not a total crapshoot to predict which flus will be in circulation. Yes, there've been some surprises, like H1N1 in 2009, and the mutation that happened this year after the vaccine went into production. But we benefit from the fact that flu that is dominant in the southern hemisphere in their winter (our summer) is usually dominant here in our winter. The process is not one of mere guessing. Selecting the Viruses in the Seasonal Influenza (Flu) Vaccine | Health Professionals | Seasonal Influenza (Flu)

The only way to build up your immune system for the flu virus is to get a flu vaccination or get the flu itself, which can at a minimum, put you out of circulation for a week or so,and can cause many complications and even death.
Some surprises? It seems every year there is a pandemic because of the projections from the flu shot being off.

I haven't had it in years because one I was allergic to the flu shot due to eggs in the mix (this was back in the 1990's) and at this point I am not at risk of the flu due to age and no autoimmune syndromes.
 
Old 01-20-2015, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Some surprises? It seems every year there is a pandemic because of the projections from the flu shot being off.

I haven't had it in years because one I was allergic to the flu shot due to eggs in the mix (this was back in the 1990's) and at this point I am not at risk of the flu due to age and no autoimmune syndromes.
H1N1 seemed to pop up out of the blue in 2009.

Everyone is at risk, some at higher risk than others.
 
Old 01-20-2015, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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H1N1 seemed to pop up out of the blue in 2009.

Everyone is at risk, some at higher risk than others.
It did out from Mexico. If I remember as America called it Swine Flu, Israel called it Mexican Flu.

The last few years had various issues but nowhere near a pandemic. At most epidemic levels but often echo-chambered by the news stations.
 
Old 01-20-2015, 08:27 PM
 
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If it ain't swine flu, it is Islam flu.

Jew flu?

Hong Kong flu?

Chicken flu?

Who's in charge of nomenclature, anyway?

It all sounds political to me.
 
Old 01-20-2015, 09:17 PM
 
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The only people who need to get flu shots are kids and older people with weak immune systems. Normal healthy adults bodies normally fight the flu. Plus if everybody gets it then I don't need to. No reason. No ones contagious


I never get the flu OR flu shots
 
Old 01-21-2015, 12:17 AM
 
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Hah-the flu shot is not "free"-you better believe that the pharmaceutical companies and providers are charging the Government a very pretty penny.

Does anyone have the exact cost to administer a flu shot?
$31.99 at Walgreens.

My new Obamacare insurance didn't cover it for the first time ever (didn't cover for adults - kids were covered).

The bill was broken down:

$12.00 + for the vax and the rest was an "admin" charge.
 
Old 01-21-2015, 01:53 AM
 
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The last time I went to the movies we had an earthquake, so I don't go to the movies anymore, havnt had an earthquake since.
oh well, you didnt really miss much.
 
Old 01-21-2015, 03:27 AM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Actually, the podcast does include the above. its not true/possible btw. The Flu Vaccine contains dead virus. There may be some initial (first 24hours) symptoms. . as the body starts an immune response. . but that is about it.

It is impossible to get the Flu from the flu shot. This exact point is covered in detail in the podcast.
I get real sick from flu because of past illness. But I've only gotten the shot twice. The first time I got really sick as if I'd gotten the flu. I thought it was a fluke and tried it again. Same thing happened.

Those initial first 24 symptoms for me were not worth it. I stay away from people when flu is going around. I'm sure there are others who have the same consideration.
 
Old 01-21-2015, 06:31 AM
 
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It's KILLED virus, which stimulates your immune system to produce antibodies, w/o making you sick.
Don't lecture me on how vaccines work. I have an autoimmune disease. I've well aware of how it works.

And I'll repeat, while my immune system is working to produce antibodies, it's not protecting me from other things.

I don't do anything that screws with my immune system. And I must be doing something right. Did you see the part about me not ever getting the flu?
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