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Old 01-21-2015, 01:42 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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So you want Walmart and the Koch Brothers to run this country they would take away everything that has made this country great and everyone making over $750k would pay no taxes what so ever
Really? According to whom? You?

Have you ever seen a comparison of what the Koch brothers donate to what rich Democrat donors do? The amount the rich Democrats donate dwarfs what the Koch brothers do. The Koch brothers barely make the chart.

And, by the way, it has been the Democrats that have been taking away everything that has made this country great for many decades. They are the "Progressives" who love big government and despise Liberty. They are the ones robbing you of the Liberty you once had.

You need to educate yourself, because you don't know what you are talking about with that statement. History has been written, and it's quite clear whose been the most destructive of those things which have made this country great.
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Old 01-21-2015, 01:49 PM
 
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Were you eating crow and sour grapes instead?
For what? He has no real power. The people repudiated him and Democrats in November. What crow is there to eat?
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:21 PM
 
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Republicans want to have amnesia when it comes to the dumbest president ever. Cheny was pulling W's strings and everyone knew it.
I was answering questions but I guess it went over their republican heads...
We will never be able to find a common ground because the rabid right won't listen. They think they are always correct on every issue.
Republicans wanted to take credit for the killing of Bin Laden also. Really?

silly argument.....dumbest president ever? you forgot LBJ and Carter, guess who has amnesia now? Carter the idiot who blames Israel for the Paris attacks.

what is "common ground" for liberals? amnesty/open borders? raise taxes? expand the role of the federal government and limit our individual liberties? is that what the left calls "common ground"?


Our military and Intel should take credit for killing Bin Laden....it wouldn't have been possible if we didn't have troops in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban and Al Qaeda.



I didn't know killing Bin Laden was a republican/democrat thing.....it was either arrest him and have a trial and kill him or kill him on the spot, why should Obama take the whole credit for this is beyond me.
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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alcohol poisoning is going to rampant
That should have read .. "Alcohol poisoning is going to be rampant"!
(As you can see .. I was already well on my way!)
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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you forgot that Obama didn't give any details and how is he going to pay for it......you only heard 1 side of the issues with no details......give the GOP the time to give counterpoints in the debate why Obama's proposals are bad for the country and economy.

Whatever Obama proposed, Hillary has to explain in details how she is going to pay for it in 2016.

it was the middle class that kicked out the democrats out of the senate and were upset with Obama about Obamacare and other things........what makes you think they are going to trust Obama with his new proposals and no details?

The GOP have the majority of the governorships, majority of the legislatures of the nation, the house and senate.....don't under estimate their message.
It was a typically low turnout electorate that typically skews conservative that gave republicans the Senate. Obama is banking on the normal Presidential election electorate, with a higher turnout and with far less conservative skew, to listen to this agenda and see the Democratic Party keep pushing it to victory in '16.

This agenda sets up Hillary's run--economy continues to pull itself out of recession and Democrats remind voters that they are for the programs that help the overwhelming majority of working people, as opposed to the top earners.

The budget fight on taxes ought to be popcorn-worthy, as Obama pushes for middle class tax breaks & credits while Republicans fight to keep the top tax brackets low.

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1) equal pay for women???? what a brain fart. If women do the SAME work as men for less, male unemployment would be sky high. Who wouldn't want to hire just women if they take less for the Same WORK? Another gender warfare created by Obama and the left to score political points with women and some women drink the kool aid.

2) so the government is going to go into the daycare business now? are they going to go into the supermarket business to control food prices like Venezuela?

3) So the government is going to force private businesses to pay sick pay? where in the constitution gives the President the power to do this?

4) what did Obama say about Climate Change? he addressed it? how? how is he going to control the world's population habits and other governments in controlling the earth temp?.........Obama says a lot of good things but giving details and how is he going to pay for it is not his strong suit. Just like Obamacare, he forgot to tell the nation the details about it.

I don't want the government democrats or republicans to get into our business if the constitution doesn't give them the authority. I like a nice house, nice car, my fridge full of food, nice clothes and 30 days pay vacation a year but I don't expect the government to force others to give those things to me.

Get the picture?.....Obama is not Santa Clause or Robin Hood.....everything he proposed he hasn't given the details and how is he going to pay for it and people from the left like you don't even bother to ask or demand answers, all you want is your freebies at the expense of others.
1) Read any recent study on gender pay differential.

2) Kind of like how the government is in the birth business by giving child tax credits? No?

3) Commerce Clause + Necessary & Proper Clause, just like the federal minimum wage and overtime regulations.

4) He did make an agreement with China, which agreed to limit emissions for the first time ever. His administration has also issued rules on power plant emissions, vehicle emissions, and has supported clean energy. This is the year that international negotiation continues in Paris. With the commitment of the US and China, the groundwork is laid for global progress.
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Old 01-21-2015, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Really? That's if you think we have "recovered," I guess. Frankly, most people aren't feeling any so-called "recovery."

The ones who have not felt it are people, like yourself, who fight for the top 1% even though it is against your own self interest and those who need an increase in minimum wage.
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Old 01-21-2015, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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You didn't miss anything. I watched it this morning on Fox. Full of lies and half truths. He painted a rosy picture, threatened to veto anything that would undo his so-called achievements (the very sort of things that are making it difficult for most people, and stifling job growth).

All propaganda and political rhetoric. Celebrated the fact that he has withdrawn troops from the Middle East (didn't mention how bad things have become since he started the draw down) and completely neglected to mention the growing danger we face ... but, oh, yeah ... the "shadow of crisis has passed."

Is that all Fox News told you about the speech?
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Old 01-21-2015, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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How about you give me some facts instead of your own propaganda from a labor union trying to unionize WalMart at any cost?
You got it! Thanks for asking.

http://www.cfcw.org/Wal-MartReport-January2006.pdf
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Old 01-21-2015, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Because those "do nothing Republicans" will now be able to get their bills to the floor of the Senate and not have them blocked by do-nothing Harry Reid and his Democrat accomplices. It means they will actually be able to lead.

Now we'll see which Party is the real "do nothing" Party, as Obama obstructs and vetoes, as he has promised.
The only bills your gonna see from Republicans will be more tax breaks for the wealthy, deregulation of Wall street, and a pipeline that takes oil from Canada to an export city on the gulf to go to China and only provides 35 permanent jobs.
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Old 01-21-2015, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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For what? He has no real power. The people repudiated him and Democrats in November. What crow is there to eat?
No, Obama was reelected with an overwhelming majority.
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