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Old 01-23-2015, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Originally Posted by Volobjectitarian View Post
Done debating you given your incessant need to label me with your right winger pejorative in every post.
Just being honest, I call it like I see it, and you definitely sound like someone who falls in the right wing libertarian spectrum. Sometimes we don't like to hear the truth.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yes, I did quote the USDA thrifty plan, which was:



The thrifty plan meets the dietary needs of the person in it's age range, and I chose the most expensive age range, if you look at the chart from my original post.

Thank you very much for confirming that I am right and you are once again wrong.

Want to go for another fail?
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Give the thrifty plan a try, go to your grocery store and only spend the $43.20 for a weeks worth of groceries, breakfast, lunch, and dinner and tell me how you do. $43 will disappear a lot faster than you think it will for 7 days of food.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You didn't answer the question. Is it legal or illegal to hire that person?
And you didn't answer his question. Sure, it is illegal to hire illegal aliens, but companies still do it. So how about answering his question he has now asked you multiple times?
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:34 PM
 
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Just being honest, I call it like I see it, and you definitely sound like someone who falls in the right wing libertarian spectrum. Sometimes we don't like to hear the truth.
Not when it is a) an ad hominem that is irrelevant to the topic and b) is repeated ad nauseum, no. You don't want to debate, you want to insult, therefore, no reason to continue the debate with you specifically, since you cannot remove the insult from the topic at hand.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:40 PM
 
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So we should pay the same rates China pays to keep jobs here? Is that what you are trying to say? We should be more like China? Really?
No, I am wondering why we would make someone that did that our jobs czar.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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This is absolutely the case, and is the primary reason why minimum wage laws, over time, always end up increasing unemployment among the lowest skilled/paid/valuable.

If my revenue is such that I can pay 10 employees a total of x wages, and someone then tells me that I must now pay x + 10%, then in the real world where I cannot simply increase revenue with a wave of my hand, I am letting my least valued, least necessary employee go, until such time as my revenue increases to allow me to pay 10 jobs at a newly inflated rate. That might happen quickly, and it might never happen, but one thing is for certain, when I do make cuts, it won't be to the most employable, most valuable or most skilled...it will be to the person who will most likely have the hardest time finding new employment elsewhere.

My wage for that 10th job may indeed be insulting to some societal notion of living wages, but now it pays $0.

Will every employer do this? Nope, but as you said, if an employer cannot pay whatever wage the society demands, then they won't hire people. People not hired all make the real minimum wage of $0.
This is true. It also encourages employers to seek automated solutions and eliminate even more of those jobs. Maybe this is why Obama has led millions OUT of the workforce.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:44 PM
 
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Don't start a family without the means to do so.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Not when it is a) an ad hominem that is irrelevant to the topic and b) is repeated ad nauseum, no. You don't want to debate, you want to insult, therefore, no reason to continue the debate with you specifically, since you cannot remove the insult from the topic at hand.
Works for me, our debate was going nowhere anyway.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No, I am wondering why we would make someone that did that our jobs czar.
I agree, that would be like putting Romney in as president and think he would care about creating jobs in the US when his resume is full of past experience of sending jobs overseas to make him and his shareholders more money. There is a lot of things wrong with our politics on both sides of the spectrum that has put us in this situation we are in.
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:48 PM
 
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Funny thing I WASTED several thousand dollars on getting a skill. Then I couldn't even find work because I wasn't experienced in that line of work....so dug myself a hole,money was paid back from my tax refund all 4k of it. Yet I have STILL have never had a job with my skill...complete waste of time and money and effort. that was the end for me. Wife has done same thing but fortunately she was trained and only had to spend 6 months with the company which she did...she makes 9.50$ an hour as an EXPERIENCED person in her field! Its a crock of crap and its ALL a scam. College,trade schools etc...all scams.
Again...what skill?
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