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Old 02-16-2015, 08:23 PM
 
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well, minimum wage was never intended to be a “living wage” on which one could support oneself let alone a family.
The minimum wage was created in the early part of the 20th century. The purpose should change to fit 21st century standards.
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Old 02-16-2015, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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The minimum wage was created in the early part of the 20th century. The purpose should change to fit 21st century standards.
With a higher minimum wage, there will be what is called “wage compression.” This is where workers at the new minimum wage level will suddenly demand that they be paid more because the unskilled worker is making nearly as much as the skilled worker. There will be pressure to bump up the pay of the skilled worker so that the “reward” is greater than what the minimum wage earner is getting.

Basic economy doesn't change.
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:02 PM
 
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With a higher minimum wage, there will be what is called “wage compression.” This is where workers at the new minimum wage level will suddenly demand that they be paid more because the unskilled worker is making nearly as much as the skilled worker. There will be pressure to bump up the pay of the skilled worker so that the “reward” is greater than what the minimum wage earner is getting.

Basic economy doesn't change.



Workers can demand all they want, I've had jobs where I *didn't* get a raise when the minimum wage went up. Nobody is entitled to a raise if they were already earning more than the new minimum wage.
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Workers can demand all they want, I've had jobs where I *didn't* get a raise when the minimum wage went up. Nobody is entitled to a raise if they were already earning more than the new minimum wage.
There will be pressure to bump up the pay of the skilled worker so that the “reward” is greater than what the minimum wage earner is getting.

I said "pressure".
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:41 PM
 
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Workers can demand all they want, I've had jobs where I *didn't* get a raise when the minimum wage went up. Nobody is entitled to a raise if they were already earning more than the new minimum wage.
This right here. No one is entitled. There should be no set minimum wage. Let the free market rule what a mans labor is worth. We don't need government involvement in this at all.
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:50 PM
 
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There will be pressure to bump up the pay of the skilled worker so that the “reward” is greater than what the minimum wage earner is getting.

I said "pressure".

I guess those workers will take their skills and go home if they don't get a raise.

That'll show those evil employers.
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:52 PM
 
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This right here. No one is entitled. There should be no set minimum wage. Let the free market rule what a mans labor is worth. We don't need government involvement in this at all.

I think minimum wage is a cost we pay for excessive housing regulation which makes housing unaffordable. I would tie the two to each other; in order to get to a free market in labor, we need a free market in housing.
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:26 PM
 
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With a higher minimum wage, there will be what is called “wage compression.” This is where workers at the new minimum wage level will suddenly demand that they be paid more because the unskilled worker is making nearly as much as the skilled worker. There will be pressure to bump up the pay of the skilled worker so that the “reward” is greater than what the minimum wage earner is getting.

Basic economy doesn't change.
There is nothing wrong with this "wage compression". The only losers are those at the very top which might have to decrease slightly their salary. Everyone else gets a bump.
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:28 PM
 
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This right here. No one is entitled. There should be no set minimum wage. Let the free market rule what a mans labor is worth. We don't need government involvement in this at all.
Are you serious or are you being facetious?
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Workers can demand all they want, I've had jobs where I *didn't* get a raise when the minimum wage went up. Nobody is entitled to a raise if they were already earning more than the new minimum wage.
you are correct,.... nobody is entitled, nor should they be

but higher SKILL DEMANDS higher pay

why should a SKILLED mechanic, end up being paid the same as an UNSKILLED floor sweeper

min wage hurts more people than it helps
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