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The US sends far more to iraq, gaza, afghanistan, egypt, and spends FAR more with its naval bases in the mideast defending the GCC.
This is not true. And even if it was - Israel is a first world country of less than 10 million. Are you actually attempting to make a ridiculous comparison to Afghanistan or Egypt?
If so, that displays how low you will go to purposely misinform readers of your posts. Shame on you.
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And how much is going to iraq, afghanistan, egypt, gaza, the west bank, and being spent on naval bases in the mideast?
See above. The way you attempt to misinform is frightening.
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There's plenty of more. You have a google search engine, use it.
If there are so many more, why did you choose to bring up a ridiculous one as opposed to the 'many more?'
Again, your attempt to spread such misinformation is frightening. Goebbels would be impressed.
If there are so many more, why did you choose to bring up a ridiculous one as opposed to the 'many more?'
Again, your attempt to spread such misinformation is frightening. Goebbels would be impressed.
It is ridiculous and it happens all the time in Iran. Every dead bird is a mossad spy bird and someone has to be blamed..
Ok hot shot, prove your theory that Jewish citizens in Iran are equal to their Shiite counter-parts. And while your add it, your probably a member of the Iran stronk crew, what will happen when Iran receives nuclear weapons?
It is ridiculous and it happens all the time in Iran. Every dead bird is a mossad spy bird and someone has to be blamed..
Ok hot shot, prove your theory that Jewish citizens in Iran are equal to their Shiite counter-parts. And while your add it, your probably a member of the Iran stronk crew, what will happen when Iran receives nuclear weapons?
Jews are not the equal of Persians in Persia...no one is postulating that.
But to represent them as a tortured minority is hogwash. Simply put, I've seen no evidence of that.
Even in Israel, non Jews are not the societal equal of Jews.
The 2012 census showed 8,756 Jews left in Iran. That's down from 145,000 in 1948. There are over 47,000 Iranian born Jews in Israel, and 70,000 in the US. The 8,000 odd Jews left in Iran are mainly old people who only speak Persian and don't have the means to leave. Soon there will be zero.
You're countering official Iranian 2012 Census data with a newspaper article from 2007 which was probably out of date even then?
SMH...still acting silly. That link wasn't about the amount of Jews in Iran. It's about this idea that Iranian Jews are being persecuted.
As to the amount of Jews living there, this piece is from 2013 which states fewer than 30 thousand.
Where do you think they got their data from?
Like i said, the numbers are all over the place. Surely they didn't go from fewer than 30 thousand in 2013 to 8k in the latest census. And this piece is from October of 2013 too....barely more than a year old.
8 thousand Jews? Yeah, right. And this is WaPo...not some lame right wing rag.
Jews are not the equal of Persians in Persia...no one is postulating that.
But to represent them as a tortured minority is hogwash. Simply put, I've seen no evidence of that.
Even in Israel, non Jews are not the societal equal of Jews.
They are not a "tortured" minority, but if Iran finds any of their Jewish citizens as "Israeli spies" or "Mossad Bird operators", then they will be executed in public. Also, these Jewish citizens have to put up with a government that hosts holocaust denial conferences. So really at the limit, they are tolerated, not accepted, simply because the Persian-Jewish relationship throughout history has been good in its history. Does this happen to Jews in the U.S, No? So this is the difference between 1st class and 2nd class citizens.
They are not a "tortured" minority, but if Iran finds any of their Jewish citizens as "Israeli spies" or "Mossad Bird operators", then they will be executed in public. Also, these Jewish citizens have to put up with a government that hosts holocaust denial conferences. So really at the limit, they are tolerated, not accepted, simply because the Persian-Jewish relationship throughout history has been good in its history. Does this happen to Jews in the U.S, No? So this is the difference between 1st class and 2nd class citizens.
Since the Revolution, there's been little persecution of Jews in Iran. Sure, early on in Khomeini's regime, they caught hell. But then, LOTS of groups caught hell at the time. Still, it seems to me that Jews prosper more under Persian domination than under Arab domination, and Arabs are genetic brothers of the Jews.
As to Holocaust denial conferences, for all i know, maybe Iranian Jews don't care. I know i don't. I've never understood why anyone would get their hackles up over that stupidity. It's the territory for loons, and you'll always have loons. After all the Jews in Iran have been through, perhaps they don't see that as anything worth raising their blood pressure over.
Are Jews second class citizens in Iran? Probably in many cases. But then, maybe they don't expect to be treated as first class in a Persian nation anymore than a Persian would expect to be treated as first class in a Jewish nation.
Moreover, remaining Iranian Jews have rejected on more than one occasion, pecuniary enticements to move to Israel. That tells me that they're somewhat happy there.
Since the Revolution, there's been little persecution of Jews in Iran. Sure, early on in Khomeini's regime, they caught hell. But then, LOTS of groups caught hell at the time. Still, it seems to me that Jews prosper more under Persian domination than under Arab domination, and Arabs are genetic brothers of the Jews.
Wrong... But Im tired of repeating myself. Anyhow, Jews would prosper more under Persian domination because there are no more Jews today under Arab domination.
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s to Holocaust denial conferences, for all i know, maybe Iranian Jews don't care. I know i don't. I've never understood why anyone would get their hackles up over that stupidity. It's the territory for loons, and you'll always have loons. After all the Jews in Iran have been through, perhaps they don't see that as anything worth raising their blood pressure over.
I get it now, your summary of Iran. A peaceful Iranian regime who has never harmed anybody, does not sponsor terrorism or committees terrorism, But only performs violent acts against Western imperialism that is allowed to have holocaust denial conferences because their loonies? Unbelievable
Jews in Iran like their Muslim counter-parts, do not enjoy free speech and the right to criticize freely, as the Mullah's are against heavy criticism. Ofcourse Jews everywhere are horrified of holocaust denial, but cannot express anger without punishment.
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Are Jews second class citizens in Iran? Probably in many cases. But then, maybe they don't expect to be treated as first class in a Persian nation anymore than a Persian would expect to be treated as first class in a Jewish nation.
Moreover, remaining Iranian Jews have rejected on more than one occasion, pecuniary enticements to move to Israel. That tells me that they're somewhat happy there.
Persians, Muslims, Christians, Americans, Asians, Russians, what ever what ever, are equal citizens in the state of Israel with equal protection and benefits under the law. How come Israeli Arabs are treated better in Israel than Jews in Iran?
Your back peddling has gone too far.
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