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Old 01-22-2015, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
LMAO...I found the story to be rather funny.

You mean a guy WITH a gun got tackled and put into a chokehold?

I mean, he DID have a gun, right?

What exactly did he have a gun for again?
It apparently didn't make his attacker think twice from attacking. Nor did it do him any good when it came to defending himself if the guy was able to get him in a chokehold. At that point, his attacker could have probably gotten hold of his gun and shot him with his own protection.

Looks like thus guy needs to go back and learn how to safely handle a gun in public to prevent these kinds of situations.
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Old 01-22-2015, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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This is in Florida and open carry is not allowed. He must have seen the gun print through the clothing, or maybe the gun was briefly flashed when the guy got out of the car or bent over... something like that.
I know that sometimes mine gets exposed when I do certain things.
I agree. I think Foster saw it when the guy got out of the car. That's why I don't open carry in stores or other public places. Always well concealed. Too many people freak when they see a gun and no amount of education or familiarity will change their reactions.
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Old 01-22-2015, 10:38 AM
 
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It apparently didn't make his attacker think twice from attacking. Nor did it do him any good when it came to defending himself if the guy was able to get him in a chokehold. At that point, his attacker could have probably gotten hold of his gun and shot him with his own protection.

Looks like thus guy needs to go back and learn how to safely handle a gun in public to prevent these kinds of situations.
What exactly did this guy do wrong?
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Old 01-22-2015, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I agree. I think Foster saw it when the guy got out of the car. That's why I don't open carry in stores or other public places. Always well concealed. Too many people freak when they see a gun and no amount of education or familiarity will change their reactions.
I think the article says that he saw the guy putting the holstered gun on his belt when he got out of his car. Not a big issue, I do that all the time. Can't carry at work so it sits in my center console, when I get out of the car I slip it on the belt. The assailant comes across as a violent nutcase.
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Old 01-22-2015, 10:52 AM
 
Location: DC
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Apparently having a gun didn't help the victim.
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Old 01-22-2015, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Apparently having a gun didn't help the victim.
He's still alive, isn't he? The purpose of a firearm is to protect your life, not to kill others.
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Old 01-22-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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Apparently having a gun didn't help the victim.

Guns did not help the 2 cops shot to death when they were ambushed from behind....

It's a pretty simple concept that anti gunners just cannot figure out..
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Old 01-22-2015, 11:00 AM
 
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LMAO...I found the story to be rather funny.

You mean a guy WITH a gun got tackled and put into a chokehold?

I mean, he DID have a gun, right?

What exactly did he have a gun for again?
Your point doesn't stand because you are assuming that the guy couldn't get to his gun when in reality he may have been able to but chose not to shoot the guy because he knew the guy was just confused and not trying to actively kill him.

These types of threads really show the slippery slope where people say they want rigid licensing etc. but in many states that's exactly what you need to do, including finger printing etc. in states like Illinois.

But even the people that go through the more stringent licensing are showing us that isn't enough for some and that the next argument would of course be strawmen attacks that they too shouldn't have them because it doesn't help.

Just goes to kinda show that giving any ground on gun related issues out of "good faith" would be stupid on the part of the NRA etc. because it's never going to be enough.
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Old 01-22-2015, 11:00 AM
 
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Another vicious thug assaults an innocent person and ends up arrested. You can't fix stupid. Hopefully the justice system works and locks him up for a decent stretch of time.
not only should foster be locked up for assault and battery, but the victim should sue the bastard as well.

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LMAO...I found the story to be rather funny.

You mean a guy WITH a gun got tackled and put into a chokehold?

I mean, he DID have a gun, right?

What exactly did he have a gun for again?
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Did the CCW holder believe his life was in imminent danger? That is the standard that is legally required to draw your weapon.
Probably some one wrestling you to the ground and yelling call the police, does not constitute imminent danger to his life.
He is still living so apparently the armed citizen made the correct decision.
sorry DD but in this instance the CCW holder did the right thing by not drawing his weapon. if he had felt his life was in danger, he could have shot foster to stop his attack.
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Old 01-22-2015, 11:05 AM
 
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It apparently didn't make his attacker think twice from attacking. Nor did it do him any good when it came to defending himself if the guy was able to get him in a chokehold. At that point, his attacker could have probably gotten hold of his gun and shot him with his own protection.

Looks like thus guy needs to go back and learn how to safely handle a gun in public to prevent these kinds of situations.
Actually, the attacker was (using your magic words) probably a Ninja against whom no one would have a defense. Apparently (ooh, another power-imagination word) the man probably kept his firearm unloaded and only intended to carry it as a deterrent but since he is possibly a pacifist would never want to actually shoot anyone.

yay! Imagination game! Your turn (again)!
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