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Old 02-10-2015, 10:33 AM
bUU
 
Location: Florida
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Homosexuals are a class of Americans who have been subjected to a pattern of discrimination by society
Absolutely WRONG !! Homosexuals have NOT been, and will NEVER be accepted by the majority of society because it's an abnormal, perverted, sinful behavior.
First: Your response indicates that you either didn't read or didn't understand the words you were replying to.

Second: There is nothing perverted or sinful about homosexuality. You're simply wrong about that, holding to a self-centered contention that what's right for you is the only thing that could be right for others. The rationalization you use to justify your contention is what is truly sinful: Hubris.

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Absurd and WRONG Again Those of your beliefs are Blinded by the enemy of all mankind, who dwells in Hell, but roams earth seeking whom he may seduce and deceive. Therefore, their concept of morality and consideration for others is warped, twisted, and delusional.
Don't talk about warped, twisted and delusion in the same paragraph as you're talking about a made-up superstition that you choose to believe in.

This statement, like your first, is the epitome of moral turpitude in the form of hubris. It's a shame that someone, like yourself, who seems so inclined toward the topic of morality, has been poisoned by such a corrupt indoctrination into the Pauline mythology.
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Old 02-10-2015, 10:42 AM
 
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Sorry. All the polls show that the majority in the us already does support gay rights, and the size of that majority is increasing. (And the same is true in other western european nations as well.)

If you want to live where most people think the way you do, you might consider moving to uganda. Otherwise, I see no help for it - you're going to have to get used to being a minority on this issue.





Since there is no objective evidence of any such being or place, I reserve my right to ignore your claim that one exists.

There is objective evidence, however, that there is a place called uganda which is governed by people who agree with you.
Silly, supercilious insults brushed aside, you will NEVER Stop The TRUTH.

The TRUTH created you.
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Old 02-10-2015, 10:51 AM
 
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Silly, supercilious insults brushed aside, you will NEVER Stop The TRUTH.

The TRUTH created you.
You are entitled to your beliefs. You aren't entitled to make the rest of us live our lives according to your beliefs. When you and Judge Moore realize this, we will all be better off.
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Old 02-10-2015, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I wish the haters would just give it up already.

The US Constitution specifies equal treatment for everyone under the law - we went through this for women, ethnicity, age, and now, same-sex couples.

Perhaps those who wish to stand in the way of progress should devote their energies to building a time machine, so they can go back to an era of their choosing. Otherwise, it's time to face the music and accept that same-sex couples will have the same Constitutional rights as everyone else in about four months. And yes, the Constitution trumps state law, every time.
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Old 02-10-2015, 05:27 PM
 
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Default The other point.

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Especially when they either don't know or are deceptive about what their religion says. Gay marriage is not a sin any more than Buddhists marrying each other is a sin. While the Bible does talk about homosexuality, it does not explicitly mention gay marriage (nor marriage between adherents of other religions). Furthermore, most importantly, the Bible doesn't have standing to comment on how people who don't subscribe to the Bible should live in definitely non-Christian America. So your diatribe here only has significance if you're willing to stand up and say that non-Christians should have their citizenship revoked. Please do that, to prove at least that you recognize that in order for your perspective to have any worth you must necessarily proclaim beliefs that are patently absurd, not to mention ridiculously megalomaniac.

What about it? You expressed your perspective and others expressed theirs. Freedom of Speech clearly prevailed.

It must suck to think that you're lord and master over other people such that you deserve to impose your beliefs on what goes on within their skin, impose your beliefs on their families, and impose your beliefs on their worship, only to have your hubris rebuffed by the reality of civil rights.
The other point is Free will. The Good Lord let's make your on decisions to a point to either turn to the Lord or turn away to Satan. It their choice, its everyone's choice.

We do not impose our believes but Christians must and stand for Good Christian values. If asked we try to minster to someone whom may need help. What is interesting is when any who raises above the current political correctness or the status quo, you guys get offended.
Why? The question must really hit deep to your their inner being and something really must be wrong. But can not put a finger on it.

When folks like myself post the other view, it just may change someone's life for the good. Or get some to think about where their life is heading

Unfortunately in the modern age it seems all life styles are acceptable. Like I said civil unions are acceptable for peoples rights and the courts are over turning voter approved laws.
Most troubling.
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Old 02-10-2015, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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The other point is Free will. The Good Lord let's make your on decisions to a point to either turn to the Lord or turn away to Satan. It their choice, its everyone's choice.

We do not impose our believes but Christians must and stand for Good Christian values. If asked we try to minster to someone whom may need help. What is interesting is when any who raises above the current political correctness or the status quo, you guys get offended.
Why? The question must really hit deep to your their inner being and something really must be wrong. But can not put a finger on it.

When folks like myself post the other view, it just may change someone's life for the good. Or get some to think about where their life is heading

Unfortunately in the modern age it seems all life styles are acceptable. Like I said civil unions are acceptable for peoples rights and the courts are over turning voter approved laws.
Most troubling.
Then why were civil unions banned at the same time that marriage bans were put in place?

The courts are overturning unconstitutional laws. That's kind of their job in these issues.
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Old 02-10-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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Like I said civil unions are acceptable for peoples rights and the courts are over turning voter approved laws.
The "voter approved laws" banned same-sex civil unions. Christ, do I need to write a macro or something?
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Old 02-10-2015, 06:45 PM
 
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Okay, as long as government recognizes heterosexual couples as a civil union instead of marriage. Then at that point government shouldn't care who you married in your church.
Well Marriage to the rest of America is One Man and One Woman. Period. America is not rued from a central court in which you may find in Europe. Doma was endorsed by Americans and even Bill Clinton supported. Most recently Obama, which he has changed his mind again .

By the Judge who ruled on Gay Marriage is being removed from the bench. The citizens are in the process to get this done.
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Old 02-10-2015, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Well Marriage to the rest of America is One Man and One Woman. Period. America is not rued from a central court in which you may find in Europe. Doma was endorsed by Americans and even Bill Clinton supported. Most recently Obama, which he has changed his mind again .

By the Judge who ruled on Gay Marriage is being removed from the bench. The citizens are in the process to get this done.
Which judge is getting removed? Over 25 judges have ruled against same sex marriage bans.

DOMA was found to be unconstitutional.

And it doesn't matter what the majority think (the majority support SSM BTW) when it comes to laws being constitutional or not. 37 states have legal SSM most of the other have been ruled unconstitutional and are in the appeals process.
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Old 02-10-2015, 07:13 PM
 
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Which judge is getting removed? Over 25 judges have ruled against same sex marriage bans.

DOMA was found to be unconstitutional.

And it doesn't matter what the majority think (the majority support SSM BTW) when it comes to laws being constitutional or not. 37 states have legal SSM most of the other have been ruled unconstitutional and are in the appeals process.
Yes it was after Gay groups sued their way to the top and amazing how dem's and Liberals supported at the time when it was popular?

Just heard the news sorry, on TV. I will get more Info.
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