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Old 01-25-2015, 09:48 AM
 
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The school can't legally force him to stand for it. If they continue pushing the issue instruct them to look up the legal precedents on the matter. Personally I think the pledge is one of the dumbest things out there.
Do you think that surprises anyone?
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:48 AM
 
Location: London
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I never stood or recited...mostly because it just too creepy and cult-like for my taste. I'm not originally from this country, so perhaps I just didn't identify.

Also the god thing didn't help, as a lifelong agnostic.

Not to mention that most of my school years was during the Dubya Bush years, so yeah. Forget it.

No one gave me a hard time for it or even cared. I wasn't stopping others from reciting.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:52 AM
 
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I never stood...mostly because it just too creepy and cult-like for my taste. I'm not originally from this country, so perhaps I just didn't identify.

Also the god thing didn't help, as a lifelong agnostic.

Not to mention that most of my school years was during the Dubya Bush years, so yeah. Forget it.
Are you a US citizen?
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:52 AM
 
Location: North America
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Do you think that surprises anyone?
Does what surprise anyone?
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:53 AM
 
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We don't live in a hunter gather society anymore.
Shows your lack of knowledge about our Country.

In MANY parts of the Country it is part of life there.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:53 AM
 
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Does what surprise anyone?
What you think is dumb.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:53 AM
 
Location: North America
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Are you a US citizen?
Yes, because the only test of citizenship is standing for the pledge like the founding fathers did, right? Oh...wait...that's right...THEY DIDN'T . Guess they aren't tr00 Americans either are they?
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:56 AM
 
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we all know the pledge is brainwashing, we always have, but everything in life has some brainwashing. The army does it, religion leader brainwash, union brainwash, government brainwash, but in reality, is standing for thirty second really worth a fight that cannot be won. They are not going change. The teacher unions are one of the biggest government brainwasher. You think this is bad, wait till he goes to college and the liberal professors get to him.
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:56 AM
 
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I think we might all agree that the country to which the child chooses not to pledge support does allow that child to make a choice, and that country also provides an education - in general - provided by the general taxation of its citizens.

Given that the child doesn't want o participate in a generally accepted form of kinship recognition then he/she should be afforded the opportunity to forego that 'generally' provided education as well. And that the child should remain a ward of his known parents until an age of majority, then deported to some other land which is of no concern to the government or people of the U.S.

As a matter of choice.
"I think we might all agree that the country to which the child chooses not to pledge support does allow that child to make a choice,"

How can you come to that ridiculous conclusion after reading all the posts?
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:57 AM
 
Location: London
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Are you a US citizen?
I'm legally allowed to live, attend school, and work here. Beyond that, my specific status is none of your business.
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