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Old 01-25-2015, 10:04 AM
 
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Would Lucidkitty think this would be okay as a booking photo? In some cultures (our buddies in Saudi Arabia) a woman can get arrested for displaying "tempting eyes." ('cause we men have no self control around even a fairly attractive woman ).
Saudi Arabia Outlaws Female 'Tempting Eyes' - Breitbart

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Old 01-25-2015, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Would Lucidkitty think this would be okay as a booking photo? In some cultures (our buddies in Saudi Arabia) a woman can get arrested for displaying "tempting eyes." ('cause we men have no self control around even a fairly attractive woman ).
This is just offensive.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Was it necessary though? The Koran says to dress modestly, accept for your husband, close family, or those who will have no sexual desires towards you (so, children and other women). But that's it. It's pretty ambitious. Dressing modestly was taken to great lengths by Islamic Radicals to mean 'cover nearly everything,' while most people would say that's too much. Dressing modestly could just mean wearing pants and a shirt that isn't low cut.
Dressing modestly is a tenet of many religions, I am curious that you feel justified in determining what "modesty" should be defined as for followers of other religions.

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So while I agree, it really wouldn't have been too much to get a female officer, it wasn't really necessary. Hijab is not actually required in Islam; many Muslim women in the west choose to not wear it. But if you're in the west, it is a choice. By asking her to remove it, she should have just done so. It's not at all an unreasonable request.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but by not respecting her beliefs it enters a gray area of religious intolerance, and the police should be aware of this.

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Sorry; since NO person in the US has to wear a head covering in public, her "rights" to being "stripped" in front a lady cop only don't apply. It's not like the perp's taking off her shirt and bra. Sheesh!
So you feel justified in determining what is or is not "modesty" according to her beliefs? Wow, those are some mad skills.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:26 AM
 
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I'm ON THE SIDE OF REMOVING THE DAMN SCARF (equal treatment under the law). But THAT was one stupid statement. Russia has freedom to WORSHIP. WE have FREEDOM OF RELIGION. Do you seriously not understand the difference?


What the hell are you talking about? You're just as crazy as that dingbat muslim woman.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:45 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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So she has no qualms about violating the law in the United States by driving with a suspended drivers license but the United States has no right to ask her to remove a scarf that will pose security problems for them with this woman and possibly others.
She really should go back where she came from if she came from outside of the United States. If she came from the United States perhaps she should learn how to follow all of the laws of the United States.
If you read the lawsuit, or even the article, the issue isn't taking the scarf off to take the picture, it is that she wanted a female officer to take the picture so as not to unscarf in front of a male. Provided a female officer was available, that is not an unreasonable request.

I don't think she should win anything but a little sensitivity when possible is a good policy.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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If you read the lawsuit, or even the article, the issue isn't taking the scarf off to take the picture, it is that she wanted a female officer to take the picture so as not to unscarf in front of a male. Provided a female officer was available, that is not an unreasonable request.

I don't think she should win anything but a little sensitivity when possible is a good policy.
Exactly.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If you read the lawsuit, or even the article, the issue isn't taking the scarf off to take the picture, it is that she wanted a female officer to take the picture so as not to unscarf in front of a male. Provided a female officer was available, that is not an unreasonable request.

I don't think she should win anything but a little sensitivity when possible is a good policy.
Maybe she doesn't realize that mugshots can be seen from the web and also appear in the MSM ?
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:04 AM
 
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What the hell are you talking about? You're just as crazy as that dingbat muslim woman.
You really should form an educated opinion before you spout off. It only makes you look foolish

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Until very recently, the West saw religious liberty as a weight-bearing pillar of human freedom. Thus, the very first clause of the First Amendment (1789) states,
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
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That’s unequivocal. Freedom of religion means the right to live according to one’s own faith, that is, to “manifest” our religion or belief in practice , both “in public or private,” without interference from the state.

These days, that and $2 will buy you a small cup of Starbucks’ coffee. Strident secularism is on the march and freedom of religion is the target, with secularist warriors attempting to drive religious practice behind closed doors by redefining religious liberty down to a hyper-restricted, “freedom of worship.”


Freedom of Religion vs Freedom of Worship
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:09 AM
 
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You really should form an educated opinion before you spout off. It only makes you look foolish
Educate yourself about the separation between church and state before you spout off.
It only makes you look foolish and like a religious lunatic.
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:37 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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I feel pretty sorry for the owners of the incredibly lacking comprehension skills. She said she would remove her head covering in front of a female police officer, not an extreme request. And why do you think they refused that request?

As if a male officer would even want her. 99% of them are morbidly fat and/or unattractive. Their countries are not foolish. They keep the babes and give us all of the homely ones.
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