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Old 01-25-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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Broken clocks like her and Liz Warren are right twice a day.
Being that the last Supreme Court session had a very high 9-0 ruling record, my guess is you agree with her far more often than you think you do.
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Old 01-25-2015, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by CamaroGuy
Broken clocks like her and Liz Warren are right twice a day.

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Being that the last Supreme Court session had a very high 9-0 ruling record, my guess is you agree with her far more often than you think you do.
That link between Sotomayor and Warren had me scratching my head. It didn;t make any sense, other than both are both are liberal women... ohhhhhhh got it
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Old 01-25-2015, 01:36 PM
 
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Actually, it is estimated that more than $1Trillion has been wasted on this ridiculous war. This doesn't take into account the billions of dollars funneled to the legal system (cops, lawyers, bondsmen, bounty hunters, prisons...etc.) by the victims of this war on citizens over the decades.

This has been an atrocious method of funneling wealth away from the poor to the pockets of the people waging the war.
I would argue that a trillion is a very very low estimate.
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Old 01-25-2015, 01:42 PM
 
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Actually, it is estimated that more than $1Trillion has been wasted on this ridiculous war. This doesn't take into account the billions of dollars funneled to the legal system (cops, lawyers, bondsmen, bounty hunters, prisons...etc.) by the victims of this war on citizens over the decades.

This has been an atrocious method of funneling wealth away from the poor to the pockets of the people waging the war.
And that doesn't even begin to take into account the numerous lives that have been destroyed by this bogus revenue generating "war". People whose lives are ruined forever with a bogus drug conviction on their record that they can never get out from under.
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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" It's purely to help the police get more criminals," Isn't that what they are supposed to do?
No. They are supposed to get more criminals LEGALLY.

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I guess you would rather the police leave criminals alone.
If the police commit a crime in the process, they ARE the criminals.

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If you DON'T carrry ilegal drugs the dogs will walk right on by you.
Not true at all. Dogs are quite inaccurate.

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"if you can't do the time, don't commit the crime"
Tell that to the police. They should be in jail "doing the time" since they broke the law. Or do you think police are above the law?
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Their job is to uphold the laws.....all of them. Even the ones that grant citizens the protections against illegal search and seizures.
Correct. LE becomes criminals when they perform illegal searches.
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Just for the record;

A recent study conducted by the Chicago Tribune analyzed three years of data from police departments in the suburbs of Chicago and found that just 44% of dog alerts resulted in the discovery of drugs or paraphernalia, and that the average false alert resulted in a stop lasting almost a half hour. The numbers are even more staggering for Hispanics drivers -- the success rate was a mere 27%. Even accounting for alerts triggered by drug residue, the numbers suggest that the dogs are either being poorly trained or are responding to cues from their handlers like leading them too many times or too slowly around a vehicle.

A study conducted by researchers at the University of California at Davis and published in January states unequivocally that “handler beliefs affect scent detection dog outcomes,” and that detector dogs are cued by their handlers 85% of the time.
http://www.hightimes.com/read/dog-da...lice-drug-dogs
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:06 PM
 
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Maybe she will turn out to be the lefts John Roberts.
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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We must remember that law enforcers and criminals are symbiotic. Without the latter we do not need so many of the former. One of the primary reasons for the criminalization of marijuana was to keep the FBI employed after Prohibition was ended. Without the criminal drug industry we would need far less police. That would be a disaster for the criminal enforcement industry and its investors. It would also be a disaster for the criminal drug industry when they faced competition for from huge scale legitimated drug and tobacco industry.

I favor legalizing the entire business with enough regulation to assure quality and quantity standards. I suggest the items be sold in State operated stores (like hard liquor is in New Hampshire) and the profits partially used to help people unfortunate enough to become addicted to these chemicals recover. Another benefit of legalization is the cost of these drugs would plummet due to price competition in a free market.
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Old 01-25-2015, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Cali
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The fourth amendment needs to be protected, and so do we - from our own government. And that is what the fourth amendment is purposed to do.
The 4th, 1st, 2nd, 5th, and 10th Amendments are VERY important to me!
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