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The stalemate over nukes, and now a Tehran-backed coup in Yemen, show that Obama isn’t tough enough.
By DENNIS ROSS, ERIC EDELMAN and RAY TAKEYH
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It is obvious that after over TEN YEARS of stalling and useless "diplomacy" with iran, the sum of which has served to provide cate ashton and the iranians with lots of free meals and nice hotel room stays paid for by Western taxpayers, that the negotiations are utterly pointless.
Obama has never stated a hard deadline - what kind of negotiations can be conducted when you keep offering endless extensions with no cost to the iranians whatsoever? After the pathetic syrian redlines debacle, and the endless extensions in these talks, how can anyone take this empty suit of a president seriously?
The line that "more sanctions passed by congress" will force iran to end the diplomatic talks is laughable nonsense, who cares if they end - they have accomplished, as Ross states, absolutely NOTHING in over a decade.
If this was a republican president, the left-wing media like the scum hole NY Times and its lowlife editorial board would be all over the president for failing to achieve ANYTHING out of these talks, but instead, we see the bottom feeders at there deflecting from obama's abject failings with plenty of nonsense about Netanyahu's visit.
The visit is meaningless; it has no bearing on the charade of talks that obama has been sleepwalking through for 6 years. While some of the blame can be placed on Bush for 4 years of accomplishing nothing either, obama has been in office for long enough to have achieved something, particularly by threatening to end the talks and attacking iran.
Then again, when objectively looking at obama's foreign policy "accomplishments", it is hardly surprising how badly he has botched the iran "negotiations" as well. If only he had retained quality advisors like Ross and maintained a more realistic, hardline position with iran, but in obama's puny brain, he is always right, even when he's not.
The adults are attempting to keep us out of another war in the Middle East. The petulant children in charge in Congress are playing politics because...well, because they're petulant children.
Thank God for President Obama. If McCain had won in 2008 we would be embroiled in Iran right now. Remember his joke whenever he was asked about Iran was to "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran." Now THAT is what a childish response sounds like, OP.
I love how the "children" are arguing against a war, but they never offer any other options to terminating iran's illegal nuclear weapons program, or stopping its march of conquest across the mideast.
They ignore the consequences of allowing iran to go nuclear, spouting juvenile nonsense like "its not our war" or "we need to take care of our own", as if the year is 1612 and we are not living in a highly connected, global environment. What is truly amazing is how awful the caliber of people obama has surrounded himself with who ignore that fact; that the attainment of nuclear weapons breakout capability of the iranians will lead to much more violence and dangerous wars in the mideast for years, if not decades - when we could have stopped it now.
I love how the "children" are arguing against a war, but they never offer any other options to terminating iran's illegal nuclear weapons program, or stopping its march of conquest across the mideast.
They ignore the consequences of allowing iran to go nuclear, spouting juvenile nonsense like "its not our war" or "we need to take care of our own", as if the year is 1612 and we are not living in a highly connected, global environment. What is truly amazing is how awful the caliber of people obama has surrounded himself with who ignore that fact; that the attainment of nuclear weapons breakout capability of the iranians will lead to much more violence and dangerous wars in the mideast for years, if not decades - when we could have stopped it now.
This is more Isreals problem then ours. Why are we the world police? Why must WE deal with it? Maybe china should step up if they want to be a world power, and deal with this country thats in their backyard.
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This is more Isreals problem then ours. Why are we the world police? Why must WE deal with it? Maybe china should step up if they want to be a world power, and deal with this country thats in their backyard.
Why are you trying to deprive Conservatives of their next war? What a killjoy!
This is more Isreals problem then ours. Why are we the world police? Why must WE deal with it? Maybe china should step up if they want to be a world power, and deal with this country thats in their backyard.
Is logical reasoning beyond the ability of the left and the ron paul sycophants in this forum? Can you contemplate these questions:
Do you want a massive arab/israel vs. iran war? You will get it in 5 years if iran goes nuclear.
Already iran has conquered FOUR other countries; lebanon syria, iraq, and now yemen - do you think that they will stop there once they achieve nuclear weapons status?
Over 50% of the world's energy flows through Iran's waterways, so they have an easy ability to stop it and drive the per barrel costs to over $300 per barrel - do you think that that would positively affect the world economy?
Do you believe saudi arabia and the other arab countries will not also go nuclear, creating an infinitely more dangerous scenario in the world's most dangerous region?
With all of the above likely, do you think that that will help the US' markets buy more or less product from the US? Meaning, if US trade partners suffer due to an economic crunch due to increased oil prices, do you realize that they will be forced to buy LESS from the US, damaging the US economy? One of the primary reasons that the US IS the world's police is to ensure safe markets for its exports, many of which keep you employed.
If iran is responsible for so much terrorism around the world - it is the #1 state sponsor of terror - do you expect it to act MORE responsibly once it and its proxy terrorist arms can operate under the protection of a nuclear weapons umbrella?
Yes, it is Israel's problem - and we refused to allow them to attack iran almost ten years ago when they could have done so on their own. NOW it is OUR problem, because we held back others from dealing with it.
is logical reasoning beyond the ability of the left and the ron paul sycophants in this forum? Can you contemplate these questions:
Do you want a massive arab/israel vs. Iran war? You will get it in 5 years if iran goes nuclear.
Already iran has conquered four other countries; lebanon syria, iraq, and now yemen - do you think that they will stop there once they achieve nuclear weapons status?
Over 50% of the world's energy flows through iran's waterways, so they have an easy ability to stop it and drive the per barrel costs to over $300 per barrel - do you think that that would positively affect the world economy?
Do you believe saudi arabia and the other arab countries will not also go nuclear, creating an infinitely more dangerous scenario in the world's most dangerous region?
With all of the above likely, do you think that that will help the us' markets buy more or less product from the us? Meaning, if us trade partners suffer due to an economic crunch due to increased oil prices, do you realize that they will be forced to buy less from the us, damaging the us economy? One of the primary reasons that the us is the world's police is to ensure safe markets for its exports, many of which keep you employed.
If iran is responsible for so much terrorism around the world - it is the #1 state sponsor of terror - do you expect it to act more responsibly once it and its proxy terrorist arms can operate under the protection of a nuclear weapons umbrella?
Yes, it is israel's problem - and we refused to allow them to attack iran almost ten years ago when they could have done so on their own. Now it is our problem, because we held back others from dealing with it.
Is logical reasoning beyond the ability of the left and the ron paul sycophants in this forum? Can you contemplate these questions:
Do you want a massive arab/israel vs. iran war? You will get it in 5 years if iran goes nuclear.
Already iran has conquered FOUR other countries; lebanon syria, iraq, and now yemen - do you think that they will stop there once they achieve nuclear weapons status?
Over 50% of the world's energy flows through Iran's waterways, so they have an easy ability to stop it and drive the per barrel costs to over $300 per barrel - do you think that that would positively affect the world economy?
Do you believe saudi arabia and the other arab countries will not also go nuclear, creating an infinitely more dangerous scenario in the world's most dangerous region?
With all of the above likely, do you think that that will help the US' markets buy more or less product from the US? Meaning, if US trade partners suffer due to an economic crunch due to increased oil prices, do you realize that they will be forced to buy LESS from the US, damaging the US economy? One of the primary reasons that the US IS the world's police is to ensure safe markets for its exports, many of which keep you employed.
If iran is responsible for so much terrorism around the world - it is the #1 state sponsor of terror - do you expect it to act MORE responsibly once it and its proxy terrorist arms can operate under the protection of a nuclear weapons umbrella?
Yes, it is Israel's problem - and we refused to allow them to attack iran almost ten years ago when they could have done so on their own. NOW it is OUR problem, because we held back others from dealing with it.
Is logical reasoning beyond the ability of the left and the ron paul sycophants in this forum? Can you contemplate these questions:
Do you want a massive arab/israel vs. iran war? You will get it in 5 years if iran goes nuclear.
Already iran has conquered FOUR other countries; lebanon syria, iraq, and now yemen - do you think that they will stop there once they achieve nuclear weapons status?
Over 50% of the world's energy flows through Iran's waterways, so they have an easy ability to stop it and drive the per barrel costs to over $300 per barrel - do you think that that would positively affect the world economy?
Do you believe saudi arabia and the other arab countries will not also go nuclear, creating an infinitely more dangerous scenario in the world's most dangerous region?
With all of the above likely, do you think that that will help the US' markets buy more or less product from the US? Meaning, if US trade partners suffer due to an economic crunch due to increased oil prices, do you realize that they will be forced to buy LESS from the US, damaging the US economy? One of the primary reasons that the US IS the world's police is to ensure safe markets for its exports, many of which keep you employed.
If iran is responsible for so much terrorism around the world - it is the #1 state sponsor of terror - do you expect it to act MORE responsibly once it and its proxy terrorist arms can operate under the protection of a nuclear weapons umbrella?
Yes, it is Israel's problem - and we refused to allow them to attack iran almost ten years ago when they could have done so on their own. NOW it is OUR problem, because we held back others from dealing with it.
No you won't, the Iranians are nothing but talk.
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Quick! Apply your logic!
