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Old 01-27-2015, 01:10 AM
 
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As per my OP, I think they can sway it 5%. Thats not horrific, but its not good either.....

Even worse though is that they can radicalize folks, and make our government work extremely badly.
Yep. Control comes in many forms.

 
Old 01-27-2015, 01:18 AM
 
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Sigh...look at the post #21. Go ahead look. deception? THATS deception. let me quote from that link:


If you aren't able to comprehend why it is, then you have serious issues.

My statement? Is provided by the Koch brothers themselves. So tell me EXACTLY how I am being deceptive, IE provide facts instead of nonsense.
I think some of these guys roll a pair of dice, and randomly choose a pre-sliced statement to paste as a response. Maybe they spin a wheel for categories: Hateful, demeaning, insulting. I'm sorry, but when I read that post I thought the exact same thing. I reread your post, then I laughed my ass off. It's really quite fascinating.
 
Old 01-27-2015, 01:53 AM
 
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So how much is Soros and other rich Dems setting aside? I bet it's more. They spent huge in the election last year but didn't get much to show for it.
 
Old 01-27-2015, 01:56 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Some of us just talk about needing to return this country to its constitutional roots. The Koch brothers put their money where their mouth is. God bless them.
 
Old 01-27-2015, 02:00 AM
 
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Yup, best democracy that money can buy.

Koch brothers set $889 million budget for 2016

Seriously.....889 million dollars? And its not even 2016 yet. This next election is going to show just how much money can effect an election. And the answer may be shocking.

Because I think money can only effect a vote by about 5%. Yes that matters in some elections, but money only goes so far. At a certain point you have to be able to convince people of your platform.

Gods...I'd hate to live in a swing state. The advertisements are going to be non-stop.
I wonder how much George Soros has set aside for the Democrats in 2016. Remember greywar, it's always better to see both sides.
 
Old 01-27-2015, 02:11 AM
 
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So how much is Soros and other rich Dems setting aside? I bet it's more. They spent huge in the election last year but didn't get much to show for it.
Indeed. Harry Reid's Senate Majority PAC, literally spent $100M+ in the election last November in a vain attempt to support incumbent senators from the Democrat party.

Here in NC, this PAC and others like it outspent the GOP 2x1 in the Kay Hagan/Tom Tillis race. Reid's PAC on some days bought up all the air time for political adverts for Hagan. This became the most expensive US Senate race in history. Yet despite what pollsters were saying, Hagan lost, not because of the money, but because of the job she did. i.e. Blindly supporting Obama.

IMO, I don't think the money makes much difference anymore. People ignore the adverts.
 
Old 01-27-2015, 04:01 AM
 
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Yup, best democracy that money can buy.

Koch brothers set $889 million budget for 2016

Seriously.....889 million dollars? And its not even 2016 yet. This next election is going to show just how much money can effect an election. And the answer may be shocking.

Because I think money can only effect a vote by about 5%. Yes that matters in some elections, but money only goes so far. At a certain point you have to be able to convince people of your platform.

Gods...I'd hate to live in a swing state. The advertisements are going to be non-stop.
conservatives at least elected conservatives love this. Bought and paid for. Citizens United which was handed to us by conservatives will not be viewed kindly by history.
 
Old 01-27-2015, 05:13 AM
 
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conservatives at least elected conservatives love this. Bought and paid for. Citizens United which was handed to us by conservatives will not be viewed kindly by history.
History isn't as political as yourself.
 
Old 01-27-2015, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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If Republicans win, we know who they'll call for instructions on how to govern.
George Soros since he has a lot of experience.
 
Old 01-27-2015, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Gods...I'd hate to live in a swing state. The advertisements are going to be non-stop.
Yes, I can't wait for it to be over.
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