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It's called perspective. It adds depth to the issue.
Obama doesn't need me to "defend" him, as you put it.
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"But, but, Bush sucked too": Dam right he did! And by the time O is done he will bankrupt us even more. At this rate we can't afford another President.
The total price tag for ObamaCare’s insurance programs will be 20 percent less than expected, the government’s budget office said Monday.
The law’s insurance provisions are now expected to cost $571 billion through 2019 — a drop of about $139 billion from the government's earliest estimates five years ago, according to new estimates by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).
This fact is being widely reported this morning in the reality based world. But in conservativeland, the ACA is more expensive than projected. SMH.
The collective conservative ability to completely ignore reality and flat out lie to themselves in this mass collective delusion about the ACA is astounding.
I have yet to read or listen to or watch one conservative who grapples with the objective facts coming out about the ACA that contains any good news.
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Reason: trolling again
The total price tag for ObamaCare’s insurance programs will be 20 percent less than expected, the government’s budget office said Monday.
The law’s insurance provisions are now expected to cost $571 billion through 2019 — a drop of about $139 billion from the government's earliest estimates five years ago, according to new estimates by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).
This fact is being widely reported this morning in the reality based world. But in conservativeland, the ACA is more expensive than projected. SMH.
The collective conservative ability to completely ignore reality and flat out lie to themselves in this mass collective delusion about the ACA is astounding.
I have yet to read or listen to or watch one conservative who grapples with the objective facts coming out about the ACA that contains any good news.
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Thought it was going to lower our deficit and save us all 2500 a year
Last edited by Ibginnie; 01-27-2015 at 01:40 PM..
Reason: edited quoted post
The total price tag for ObamaCare’s insurance programs will be 20 percent less than expected, the government’s budget office said Monday.
The law’s insurance provisions are now expected to cost $571 billion through 2019 — a drop of about $139 billion from the government's earliest estimates five years ago, according to new estimates by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).
This fact is being widely reported this morning in the reality based world. But in conservativeland, the ACA is more expensive than projected. SMH.
The collective conservative ability to completely ignore reality and flat out lie to themselves in this mass collective delusion about the ACA is astounding.
I have yet to read or listen to or watch one conservative who grapples with the objective facts coming out about the ACA that contains any good news.
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The only way it can lower the deficit is if PEOPLE DONT GET INSURANCE AND PAY THE FINES while making it more expensive for everyone else.
Is that the new sign of success?
Last edited by Ibginnie; 01-27-2015 at 01:40 PM..
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It will not cost $2 trillion if the subsidies are mostly gutted out of it by the Supreme Court later this year, as is expected to happen by many close to this case on both the left and right.
Well they did a number of things, including:
1. Taking a medicare cut and counting as Obamacare funding
2. Passing a doctor payment loophole fix as a separate bill so that it wouldn't count against the Obamacare numbers
3. Calculating the cost of the first 10 years using 6 years of funding but only 4 years of benefits
So yes, the Democrats made claims that Obamacare would cost less than a trillion and would lower deficit when it in fact costs double that and increases the deficit.
They also promised that the Catholic Church would not have to pay for abortion drugs, that nobody would lose access to their current physicians or insurance, that there would be no rationing of healthcare, and that the mandate was not a tax.
They also included a provision that taxpayer funds would be used to bailout any insurance companies that lost money, issued themselves and campaign donors exemptions to the law's provisions, refused to let anybody read the legislation prior to it being voted on, accused opponents of the legislation of being against providing any healthcare at all to poor people, and used a reconciliation procedure designed for budget legislation to silence Republicans from debating the law prior to the vote.
Virtually the entire Obamacare issue was dishonest and unethical on the part of the Democrat Party.
One program to benefit millions of Americans. Conservos call it bad.
The other a military failure to the detriment of all Americans. Conservos try to deflect.
How about some consistency instead of blind partisanship?
Compare and contrast.
At your leisure.
Carry on.
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. At this rate we can't afford another President.
