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When I was young we used to get really cold and snowy winters, so then liberals went on a global freezing rant, then it warmed up and then liberals went on a global warming rant, again for years now it's been really cold like it was when I was a kid but liberals forgot to go on their global freezing rant. So they both change. Sorry to pop your liberal bubble but nice try though.
Global freezing was a hit in 70s pop sci magazines, but it was always a hypothesis of a small minority of scientists, not a consensus. Your straw man is imaginary.
Everything gets sensationalized these days and usually to the extreme.
Then people in public jobs go overboard because they don't want to look bad and they want to keep up the perception of government can protect and save you.
It's a case of "The boy that cried wolf". Too many times and people will start to ignore these warnings.
A warning will suffice, cautions should be taken but a mandatory shutdown before the fact ?
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Every time I ask for actual studies or evidence of global warming or man made climate change or global climate disruption or global energy change or whatever they are calling it this week I am assured that "computer models" are all in agreement and support global warming. Well, those same computer models were all in agreement 24 hours ago that we would have a blizzard with three feet of snow and they couldn't have been more wrong. How are we supposed to trust their 100 year doomsday predictions?
Learning the differences between local and global and between weather and climate would be a good start.
Everything gets sensationalized these days and usually to the extreme.
Then people in public jobs go overboard because they don't want to look bad and they want to keep up the perception of government can protect and save you.
It's a case of "The boy that cried wolf". Too many times and people will start to ignore these warnings.
A warning will suffice, cautions should be taken but a mandatory shutdown before the fact ?
I think that mandatory shut-downs should occur more often if some number of inches are expected.
It would make clearing the streets that much easier and would actually get things back to normal faster.
I was a teen in NYC during the snowstorm that destroyed Mayor Lindsay's career.
I've no doubt that every subsequent mayor has been mindful of that nightmare.
And, Manhattan is not the entirety of NYC. The outer boroughs, particularly Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island, often get hit much harder than Manhattan, particularly in areas where the subway runs outside.
They deserve some consideration too.
I remember no subway for days after the storms of 1982 and 1983.
A perfect illustration of why a shut down in advance is a good idea:
Every time I ask for actual studies or evidence of global warming or man made climate change or global climate disruption or global energy change or whatever they are calling it this week I am assured that "computer models" are all in agreement and support global warming. Well, those same computer models were all in agreement 24 hours ago that we would have a blizzard with three feet of snow and they couldn't have been more wrong. How are we supposed to trust their 100 year doomsday predictions?
What specific errors are you citing? New York City snow was within the band of uncertainty predicted and this certainly was a massive storm as they predicted. Perhaps you should actually read the NWS forecast and not rely on Fox.
The snow moved 35 miles further east than predicted. In the minds of right wing morons, this means science is a failure, as long as the science doesn't agree with their agenda. Brilliant.
As for the mandatory closures, they were a good thing. They mean that roads are open today despite 24 inches of snow here on LI, where as a year ago people were stranded, blocking roads so plows couldn't clear them. I support taking proactive action, despite the fact that everyone in NYC doesn't think the storm even existed because they didn't get 2 feet.
Everything gets sensationalized these days and usually to the extreme.
Then people in public jobs go overboard because they don't want to look bad and they want to keep up the perception of government can protect and save you.
It's a case of "The boy that cried wolf". Too many times and people will start to ignore these warnings.
A warning will suffice, cautions should be taken but a mandatory shutdown before the fact ?
A few years ago there were hundreds of cars stuck on the Northern State Parkway (and a bunch of others LI roadways as well). There were also those stuck on the LIRR between stations for hours on end.
When massive amounts of people get stuck like that, it puts them at risk. Not only that, but it makes it impossible for emergency responders to get anywhere when there are a bunch of cars stuck in the road. It also makes cleanup for easier.
They can't get a snow storm right that is 12 hours out but they expect us to believe they know what the climate will be in 50 years.
Beat me to it. If one short term computer prediction is so far off, how can the GW ninny's expect anyone to have total faith in them? They totally miss on a short term prediction yet expect to be believed on doubtful claims concerning the far future?
Hope that their paychecks from the government are enough to self justify their frivolous guesses on the climate in the future.
Science is wrong, Science is wrong, Science is wrong! That is the rallying cry of the true believers. They want certainty in an uncertain universe. That is why they have FAITH in the anything that provides certainty. FAITH provides certainty and they need certainty. In fact there is no certainty and Faith is a delusion.
In these cases it is far better for government to go for the safe policy. Shutting down NYC may have cost convenience and money but it did not cost lives. If they had left the city open and the storm had followed the most likely, but not certain, track it would have been a disaster. Proper actions by the authorities prevents such a disaster in Boston. The governments involved handled this storm very well.
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