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Old 01-27-2015, 07:48 PM
 
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What I saw early yesterday was reports that the computer models did not agree . But warnings is all you can expect. Taking action can make a difference;ask Katrina New Orleans victims who did not and Rita victims who did. The difference was emergency management officals in the local areas.
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Old 01-27-2015, 07:52 PM
 
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They can't get a snow storm right that is 12 hours out but they expect us to believe they know what the climate will be in 50 years.
Correction. They couldn't tell 2 hours before.

But they're certain that 2014 was the warmest year on record by .02 of a degree.
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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If you think the same models are used to predict weather as climate you are a retard.
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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If you think the same models are used to predict weather as climate you are a retard.

Liberal tolerance?
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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What's the connection between members of one profession discussing recorded (as in, in the past) global temperatures and members of another making forecasts (as in, in the future) about the weather in one little bit of the planet in one day? You seem to believe there is one. What is it?
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Generally speaking, how many careers do you know of where a person can be wrong so much of the time and still keep their job?

Professional Baseball Batters, they can hit the ball 30% of the time and be "superstars"..
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:20 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Climate Models Versus Weather Models: Different Approaches for Different Needs | Southwest Climate Change Network

lookb4urworkingclassnononsenseleap: A link?! Better not click it! It's probably LIBERAL BS!



lookb4urworkingclassnononsenseleap: LOL... exactly!



lookb4urworkingclassnononsenseleap: LOL so why would I trust them?



lookb4urworkingclassnononsenseleap: (blank stare)



lookb4urworkingclassnononsenseleap:tl;dr-- AGW IS A LIBERAL HOAX!!
I see that climatechange.org - an unbiased source indeed - is trying desperately to explain away the terrible track record of computer models by throwing in the red herring "weather vs climate" nonsense. The fact remains that both models rely on numerous variables that we can't easily predict, and don't really understand their impact. Plus they leave out countless variables that we can't measure or don't even know about and try to predict what will happen in the earth's atmosphere at a certain time or place. And that crap about climate models not being area specific is just that -crap. We hear constantly how this area will melt and that area will become arid or this area will have more hurricanes. Next time I'll just call Miss Cleo.
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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alright then lets talk buffalo. its fairly near by, and endures weather like that yearly.
Why? That would still be off topic. An inch of snow shuts Portland, Or down Yet Spokane, WA can get a foot of snow and still function just fine. Different regions handle snow differently. So you can't compare Buffalo to New York City when it comes to snowfall and how it is handled.
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Generally speaking, how many careers do you know of where a person can be wrong so much of the time and still keep their job?
At least two: Charles Krauthammer's and Bill Kristol's.
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:33 PM
 
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The GFS actually did a good job calling where the snow would hit hardest. The consensus however had NYC in the bullseye zone

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