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Old 01-27-2015, 10:20 AM
 
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"Indiana will become the latest Republican-led state to expand Medicaid under Obamacare, Gov. Mike Pence (R) announced Tuesday.

Pence outlined the alternative expansion plan that he and the Obama administration had agreed upon, which builds on an existing state program."


Indiana Reaches Deal With HHS To Expand Medicaid Under O-Care

And yet another Republican governor (finally, belatedly) does the right thing for his constituents. It's expected that about 350,000 low-income Indianans will be covered by the Medicaid expansion.
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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Indianans? Why so racist?

They're called Native Midwesterners.
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:12 AM
 
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Good for the governor of Indiana for finally starting to look out for the people of his state rather than play politics with them.
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:21 AM
 
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"Indiana will become the latest Republican-led state to expand Medicaid under Obamacare, Gov. Mike Pence (R) announced Tuesday.

Pence outlined the alternative expansion plan that he and the Obama administration had agreed upon, which builds on an existing state program."


Indiana Reaches Deal With HHS To Expand Medicaid Under O-Care

And yet another Republican governor (finally, belatedly) does the right thing for his constituents. It's expected that about 350,000 low-income Indianans will be covered by the Medicaid expansion.
It's about time. Again, conservative governors refusal to both expand Medicaid and help those states citizens gain insurance through the ACA, is literally going to kill people.

Every state will expand Medicaid.

The conservative position on Medicaid expansion makes no sense. Never made any sense.

On the one hand conservatives in front of the Supreme Court argued that Medicaid was so vital to their state's that allowing the federal government to take away Medicaid funding if they don't expand medicaid was too onerous a burden.


Yet conservatives Say the Medicaid program is the worst.

So they had the perfect opportunity to not expand Medicaid, let the president remove federal Medicaid funding and destroy this horrible program within their state. The opportunity was right there.

Instead, conservatives fought tooth and nail to keep their current Medicaid funding, but maintained that the program was so bad that couldn't expand it.

This position can't hold.

Every conservative governor that doesn't expand Medicaid will be over ruled eventually by another governor.

Meanwhile rank and file conservatives are completely silent as more and more and more conservative governors expand the ACA all the while lying and saying they are going to get rid of it whole.

This is the fantasy world of conservatives where hard right governors expand the ACA, while conservatives insist they'll get rid of the ACA.

I can't make this stuff up. This happening right now in politics.
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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It's about time. Again, conservative governors refusal to both expand Medicaid and help those states citizens gain insurance through the ACA, is literally going to kill people.
Uhhh, no.

First of all, not a single emergency room in this country is allowed to turn anyone away who needs emergency treatment.

Secondly, you need to understand the difference between health insurance and health care.
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:08 PM
 
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It's about time. Again, conservative governors refusal to both expand Medicaid and help those states citizens gain insurance through the ACA, is literally going to kill people.

Every state will expand Medicaid.

The conservative position on Medicaid expansion makes no sense. Never made any sense.

On the one hand conservatives in front of the Supreme Court argued that Medicaid was so vital to their state's that allowing the federal government to take away Medicaid funding if they don't expand medicaid was too onerous a burden.


Yet conservatives Say the Medicaid program is the worst.

So they had the perfect opportunity to not expand Medicaid, let the president remove federal Medicaid funding and destroy this horrible program within their state. The opportunity was right there.

Instead, conservatives fought tooth and nail to keep their current Medicaid funding, but maintained that the program was so bad that couldn't expand it.

This position can't hold.

Every conservative governor that doesn't expand Medicaid will be over ruled eventually by another governor.

Meanwhile rank and file conservatives are completely silent as more and more and more conservative governors expand the ACA all the while lying and saying they are going to get rid of it whole.

This is the fantasy world of conservatives where hard right governors expand the ACA, while conservatives insist they'll get rid of the ACA.

I can't make this stuff up. This happening right now in politics.
The Republican governors have to actually govern and are held responsible for the state of their state by their constituents. The idiots in Congress, on the other hand, only need to posture for the cameras and throw out red meat for their base once in a while. That's the difference. And that's why, as you say, eventually all states will expand Medicaid. The governors won't be able to afford not to.
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:28 PM
 
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Iamme73, you do realize that millions are still not covered under the ACA, right?

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...-AppendixB.pdf

Page 4.
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:28 PM
 
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Mike Pence’s ‘Market-Based’ Plan to Reform Medicaid Is Actually a Deal Between Hospital Lobbyists and the Administration to Expand Obamacare

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In essence, Pence brokered a lucrative deal between the hospital lobby and the Obama administration using taxpayer money, then decided to tout it as a “market-based” plan.
Not much else to say.

Just another Republican proving there isn't a dime's worth of difference between the two parties.
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:53 PM
 
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Iamme73, you do realize that millions are still not covered under the ACA, right?

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...-AppendixB.pdf

Page 4.
Well, 350,000 or so in Indiana who weren't covered before will be now. And many more of those uninsured millions could have coverage right now if not for their political hack governors. For example, there are at least a million or so poor, uninsured people in Texas who would be covered if the governor there would stop playing politics. Don't blame the ACA when Republican politicians are deliberately keeping people from receiving healthcare.
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:57 PM
 
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Indianans? Why so racist?

They're called Native Midwesterners.
Growing up in Chicago, we called them something else, but that's pretty funny.
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