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Old 01-29-2015, 11:21 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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How does your right to free speech stop someone from strangling you because he disagrees with you?
So you admit that allowing everyone to concealed-carry will not make us all safe.
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:25 AM
 
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So you admit that allowing everyone to concealed-carry will not make us all safe.
Concealed carry does not make the community safe. It does not make the CCW a cop.

It gives a victim a chance to save his/her life. That all.
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Houston
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So you admit that allowing everyone to concealed-carry will not make us all safe.
You can wear your seatbelt and still get killed in a car accident.
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:31 AM
 
Location: CO
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Sorry it went over your head.
Hardly.
Sorry you actually think it applies.
Not surprising.
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:46 AM
 
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If the lady had been armed, how exactly would that have stopped that stray bullet from killing her?
The 3 kids should of been armed so they could have shot back at the people that shot their mother. The mother also should have been armed b/c the bullet may have missed her and killed one of the kids instead. In that case, the mother and 2 of the kids could have shot back. If they hit someone across the street we can only hope that that person is armed so they can shoot back at the kids/mother for shooting at them. Oh boy...
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Old 01-29-2015, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Armed Citizens Means Safer Streets? Really?

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So, here's yet another incident of armed people shooting at one another and a stray bullet kills a mother of three

Bayview mom killed by stray bullet in front of her 3 children - SFGate

Now, since the shooting parties obviously knew how to handle guns, and all that's missing so far is the CCW permits, how is it that people obviously defending themselves with guns makes our streets safer?
I like how you stretch to equate this gang-style shootout to legally armed law abiding citizens.

Was that a hasty generalization or a weak analogy?

Fallacies - The Writing Center
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Old 01-29-2015, 12:10 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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How does your right to free speech stop someone from strangling you because he disagrees with you?

WORD!!!
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Old 01-29-2015, 12:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Simon Feltser View Post
So, here's yet another incident of armed people shooting at one another and a stray bullet kills a mother of three

Bayview mom killed by stray bullet in front of her 3 children - SFGate

Now, since the shooting parties obviously knew how to handle guns, and all that's missing so far is the CCW permits, how is it that people obviously defending themselves with guns makes our streets safer?
Nice try, did you even read the article ?

"loud buzzer sound"....WRONG ANSWER ! First off , responsible firearms owners don't do drive by's. You anti's just crack me up.
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Old 01-29-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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So, here's yet another incident of armed people shooting at one another and a stray bullet kills a mother of three

Bayview mom killed by stray bullet in front of her 3 children - SFGate

Now, since the shooting parties obviously knew how to handle guns, and all that's missing so far is the CCW permits, how is it that people obviously defending themselves with guns makes our streets safer?
I feel a lot safer walking the streets of my city knowing that people aren't carrying handguns....The US can have it's wild west gun culture, thank you very much...
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Old 01-29-2015, 12:15 PM
 
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The 3 kids should of been armed so they could have shot back at the people that shot their mother. The mother also should have been armed b/c the bullet may have missed her and killed one of the kids instead. In that case, the mother and 2 of the kids could have shot back. If they hit someone across the street we can only hope that that person is armed so they can shoot back at the kids/mother for shooting at them. Oh boy...
Wow...really wow. Common sense is something that has past you by...
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