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Old 06-07-2015, 01:29 PM
 
Location: The High Seas
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I think Caitlyn really has balls.

 
Old 06-07-2015, 02:23 PM
 
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I wonder how we are to address Bruce period.......seems like he died, but not really!
she is now Caitlyn
 
Old 06-07-2015, 05:42 PM
 
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Sometimes, but not always. See the intersex discussion.
isn't intersex another name for hermaphrodite?
 
Old 06-07-2015, 05:43 PM
 
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Photoshop.
No, not necessarily. Drag queens and other female impersonators on stage tuck the genitals underneath them between their legs and hold it there so it wont move.. they cannot then sit down.
 
Old 06-07-2015, 06:16 PM
 
Location: USA
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No, not necessarily. Drag queens and other female impersonators on stage tuck the genitals underneath them between their legs and hold it there so it wont move.. they cannot then sit down.
Seems like such a natural thing to do.
 
Old 06-07-2015, 06:42 PM
 
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Transgendered people aren't stupid. They are fully aware they are born biologically either male or female. They're the ones that have to transition, for goodness' sake.

There no need for people to discuss them as if they're simple minded. They do the best they can with what's available, to live the way they are most comfortable in their own skin.

The same arguments here were made for many years about gays. That they have a mental disorder, it's not natural, they're delusional, etc etc. Many gays married and tried to live the expected life because society wouldn't accept them for who they are. While it was indeed difficult for the families, when older gays came out, if you love someone, truly, then the ultimate wish you have for them is that they live the life they are happiest (whatever that means) living. You truly wouldn't want your mom or dad to live a miserable farce, once you were able to come to terms with the changes. Gay people from older generations had to deal with this dilemma, sometimes driven to suicide, let's not put another set of people through it.

If you don't want to call them what they feel they are because they don't have the right chromosomes, you can, of course. But I ask again, to what end? To make sure they know they were born a physical sex? They already know that.
 
Old 06-07-2015, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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If I decided to identify as a dog, how many of you in this thread would be okay with me walking around naked and peeing on your front lawns?

Are you the only one in the world identifying as a dog? Have their been studies published in legitimate peer-reviewed journals about this? What are the experts saying about it?

The answers will determine whether or not I accept there are things at play causing you to do this - even if I don't understand it.
 
Old 06-07-2015, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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There's no way that post-menopausal Jenner has hormone excesses of any type. In fact, he probably had a severe testosterone crash, like most men over 50, and is so sexually confused about his cross-dressing that he decided to grow breasts.
Why are you taking two different parts of my post and twisting them to make it look like I said something I didn't?

And secondly, you obviously are making judgements without educating yourself. He made steps toward this before he hit 50.
 
Old 06-07-2015, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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No, not necessarily. Drag queens and other female impersonators on stage tuck the genitals underneath them between their legs and hold it there so it wont move.. they cannot then sit down.
Actually I read once some of them use a lot of layers of many control top panyhose piled one onto the other.
 
Old 06-07-2015, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Originally Posted by Orlandochuck1 View Post
Science has never determined gender by the brain. To identify true gender on all mammals on the face of the earth, chromosomes are used. He has XY chromosomes.
If his brain was the deciding factor, and he has a female brain, then he needs to give his gold medals back, because he was competing against the wrong sex.
He can identify as a woman, thats ok,but that doesn't mean he is female.
I really do not see how a transgender can ever compete in the opposite gender group once they have transitioned. It is not an even playing field they cannot compete fairly. I hope they do not start allowing that.
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