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Old 02-01-2015, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Taxas is becoming one of the most important states of the country, but still votes opposing to New York and California, why do you think it still happens?
One word "God". Texans are highly susceptible to voting based on how loudly a politician and the church screams "God".

In fact, no city may be more liberal progressive in the USA than Austin. However, it fails to get democratic seat in state elections. This map illustrates why...



Gerrymandering. And that is only one of many similar "district in Austin" that runs longer than many states.
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Old 02-01-2015, 05:07 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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One word "God". Texans are highly susceptible to voting based on how loudly a politician and the church screams "God".

In fact, no city may be more liberal progressive in the USA than Austin. However, it fails to get democratic seat in state elections. This map illustrates why...



Gerrymandering. And that is only one of many similar "district in Austin" that runs longer than many states.


That Pinwheel Gerrymandering was done long ago. So far back, it was all done by Democrats that ran the south. Republicans tried to change it 2010 and all the Democrats ran to Oklahoma and delayed a vote, that the DOJ got involved in.


If you ask me, all districts should be by lines already set. Counties and Parishes, with the state legislatures voting which Counties are combined, with the rule the Counties must touch boundaries to be combined.
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Old 02-01-2015, 05:09 PM
 
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Whoops, see post below.
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Old 02-01-2015, 05:10 PM
 
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One word "God". Texans are highly susceptible to voting based on how loudly a politician and the church screams "God".

In fact, no city may be more liberal progressive in the USA than Austin. However, it fails to get democratic seat in state elections. This map illustrates why...



Gerrymandering. And that is only one of many similar "district in Austin" that runs longer than many states.


Not to mention, San Antonio (despite large military presence, leans liberal) Houston, Dallas, El Paso, all huge population centers that vote D.
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:14 AM
 
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The post you responded to was about personal freedoms, not specifically "bodies", and gay marriage falls under personal freedoms.
No, go read it again. It specifically said that conservatives want to tell people what they can do with their bodies. That is a falsehood.
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but if you want to ignore that, tell me why the GOP wants to regulate the sale of alcohol, sex toys, condoms, birth control, and abortions ?
I can't tell you why the GOP wants to do something that it doesn't want to do. With the exception of abortion, which most conservative people consider to be murder, I don't believe the GOP has advocated any tighter control over the sale of the other things. It should be obvious why the GOP wants to limit murder. Whether you believe abortion is murder or not is irrelevant. An intellectually honest person approaches what other people say and do from the perspective of that person's feelings and motivations, and does not try to force their own motivations on that other person. Your putting abortion in the same category as alcohol, therefore, indicates that you are not an intellectually honest individual.
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Brazil
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Im brazilian and I made this question by curiosity, but I think its interesting since this really doesnt make sense to me.
Like one said probably its because most of the pepole in TX doesnt live in cities.

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False. Most people in Texas do live in cities and the surrounding metro areas.

List of Texas metropolitan areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thats what I mean
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Not to mention, San Antonio (despite large military presence, leans liberal) Houston, Dallas, El Paso, all huge population centers that vote D.
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Old 02-02-2015, 01:22 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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No, go read it again. It specifically said that conservatives want to tell people what they can do with their bodies. That is a falsehood.
seeing as Abortion would indeed have to do with their bodies, it would still make your argument flawed.

take your own advice and be intellectually honest.

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I can't tell you why the GOP wants to do something that it doesn't want to do. With the exception of abortion, which most conservative people consider to be murder, I don't believe the GOP has advocated any tighter control over the sale of the other things. It should be obvious why the GOP wants to limit murder. Whether you believe abortion is murder or not is irrelevant. An intellectually honest person approaches what other people say and do from the perspective of that person's feelings and motivations, and does not try to force their own motivations on that other person. Your putting abortion in the same category as alcohol, therefore, indicates that you are not an intellectually honest individual.
The GOP across the country have tried to do all those things. Most of those things dont make headlines unless people think they are going to pass, doesnt change the fact that they were proposed in State legislatures.

Also, i dont put abortion in the same category as alcohol. Abortion is indeed wrong and should only be used in the worst cases( fetus that isnt going to make it to term, rape, incest....), but an intellectually honest person is also practical. When abortions were illegal, they still happened, all you are doing by making abortion harder for those who want it is creating a health hazard.

The fact that you want to make it illegal just because you believe its wrong means you arent being as honest as you claim.
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Old 02-02-2015, 07:55 AM
 
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One word "God". Texans are highly susceptible to voting based on how loudly a politician and the church screams "God".

In fact, no city may be more liberal progressive in the USA than Austin. However, it fails to get democratic seat in state elections. This map illustrates why...



Gerrymandering. And that is only one of many similar "district in Austin" that runs longer than many states.

Look at TX23. That district is quite unusual, yet has changed parties each of the last 4 elections. Gerrymandering isn't unique to Texas. Look at any of the historically blue states in the NE United States, and tell me there isn't some creative boundary drawing going on...
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Old 02-02-2015, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Fiscal policies are the bulk of it, but when it comes down to social issues, the fact of the matter is that, like most of the south, many Texans are slow to get on board with the progressive attitudes that the entire nation will inevitably arrive at. Things like same sex marriage are continuously challenged in TX for no other reasons than fearmongering and stubborn good ol' boy mindsets. Conservatives want to be able to tell you what you can do with your own body, but don't you dare try to tell them what to do with their money or their guns.

I'd say that Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio could certainly be described as progressive. Texas as a whole? Not really.
There are "progressive" elements to those cities, but they are NOTHING like Portland or San Francisco.

Texas, even those cities, is still conservative, especially with fiscal issues and the size of government.

Same sex marriage will become a non issue before long after the Supreme Court rules.

In spite of the ongoing migration of people into Texas from other states, Greg Abbott trounced Wendy Davis in the last governor's race. Republicans are in overwhelming control of the state legislature.

I don't think that is especially healthy, even though I am a small government person. Just like California's domination by the Democrats isn't good.
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:28 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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There are "progressive" elements to those cities, but they are NOTHING like Portland or San Francisco.

Texas, even those cities, is still conservative, especially with fiscal issues and the size of government.

Same sex marriage will become a non issue before long after the Supreme Court rules.

In spite of the ongoing migration of people into Texas from other states, Greg Abbott trounced Wendy Davis in the last governor's race. Republicans are in overwhelming control of the state legislature.

I don't think that is especially healthy, even though I am a small government person. Just like California's domination by the Democrats isn't good.
Isnt that the truth?!! You should have seen all of the bigoted crazies come out when San Antonio and Houston were attempting to enact their gay and lesbian antidiscrimination laws.
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