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Old 02-02-2015, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska (South Central Region)
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Most white people are not rich. In fact, the African-American population is significantly richer than white people living in Eastern Europe. You see rich white people on TV but they are not represented for white people in general. You may not know it but white American men and black American men had the same rate of employment until 1910. Most of the black poverty and social problems like crime, single motherhood and so on stem from after the civil rights movement. If you placed today’s white Americans in 1950. African Americans whom lived in that particular time would have less social problems than these whites from the future. You should ask yourself. Why is both Black and White Americans are getting poorer and poorer and the richer getting richer?
Interesting.

 
Old 02-02-2015, 06:46 AM
 
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This post would make sense if it was about national exposure over missing White women vs missing Black women...

but reward money? Nah...
 
Old 02-02-2015, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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People get ticked off when stuff like this is exposed. But it is reality, due to race and class, blacks are highly disadvantaged in this society.
While race is not changeable, class is.

Don't like the economic situation you're in? Work to change it.
 
Old 02-02-2015, 02:23 PM
 
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Funny thread.

Most crimes are committed by people of the same race and are often associates, family etc of the victim.

The minute we start paying more attention to black crime, the OP will be back calling us racist.
 
Old 02-02-2015, 08:28 PM
 
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Default Here's how black life is valued

Here's a true story to end the OP's racist presumptions once and for all.

This Detroit man walks 21 miles in his daily commute. So the Internet is trying to help.

As of today, 'the internet' (i.e. anonymous donors of likely every racial color and age range) have donated a remarkable $115k for this middle-aged black man to buy a car and car insurance and never have to walk his 21 mile commute in rain and snow again.

Local car dealerships have caught wind of this incredible story and have offered to donate one of their cars to Mr. Robertson.

If you would like to help Mr. Robertson (he makes $10.55 an hour at his factory job and has never missed a day of work), click here.

Thank you everybody and good night.

Mods, you may close this ridiculous thread now.
 
Old 02-02-2015, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Two females murdered, two days apart, both murders made local news, neither killer has been caught. The reward to find the white females killer is 150,000, from anonymous donors, while the reward to find the black females killer is 2,500.

This is an example of the disadvantage of being black, from the double blow of both race and class.


Reward increased in Grosse Pointe teen's shooting death
I disagree.

It seems to me that the disparity in the reward amounts is because there is a big difference between the median household income in Grosse Pointe Farms vs. Detroit. In other words, donors in Grosse Pointe Farms have the means to make the donations while in Detroit they do not. And the parents of the white woman appear to be a bit prominent and thus her death 'registered' with more people than the death of the black woman.

You might have a point if the two women were equal in every way except race but there seems to be other variables involved including some I have not mentioned.

Same newspaper - this article:

A unique friendship born of tragedy, fostered by strength

shows that the fathers of the women are not looking at this through a "racial lense".

[maybe you should, too]
 
Old 02-03-2015, 07:13 AM
 
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Here's a true story to end the OP's racist presumptions once and for all.

This Detroit man walks 21 miles in his daily commute. So the Internet is trying to help.

As of today, 'the internet' (i.e. anonymous donors of likely every racial color and age range) have donated a remarkable $115k for this middle-aged black man to buy a car and car insurance and never have to walk his 21 mile commute in rain and snow again.

Local car dealerships have caught wind of this incredible story and have offered to donate one of their cars to Mr. Robertson.

If you would like to help Mr. Robertson (he makes $10.55 an hour at his factory job and has never missed a day of work), click here.

Thank you everybody and good night.

Mods, you may close this ridiculous thread now.

You did not read all of my threads in the post. I also noted that once the public became aware of the inequities....that they would step up to the plate and donate to the reward for the black female.

Here is the problem. Most inequities do not get highlighted in the news for people to act upon. Again, like in Selma Alabama in the 60's.....people (whites in the nation) did not act until the inequalities and brutality against blacks in the south was exposed on national and global TV. Hence, the question then becomes why were not blacks cries of inequality and injustice respected enough to act on prior to things being exposed on TV? Did whites simply feel that black people embellish their reality then....as they do today?

Here is the thing. Donating to this man is like going to church on Sunday for many. It simply an act that makes them feel good...but come Monday they can go back sin all over again. If you know anything about the Detroit area....THE PROBLEM IS THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM!!!! Most jobs are in the SUBURBS!!! The Suburbs, read whites, have always fought against regional transportation in in the Area that could get people from the city, read blacks, easily out into the suburbs. There are thousands of people every day who walk and transfer for hours just to get to work in the suburbs from the city. They are not in the news and no one is donating to get them a car.

The REAL solution is not donations....but approving regional transportation that can get people from the city to all corners of metro Detroit where the jobs are. Detroit is one of the most racially segregated areas in the country, if not the most racially segregated, and the regional transit reflects that and preserves that.
 
Old 02-03-2015, 10:43 AM
 
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I agree with much in your post about inequality and the lack of public transportation for poor people to get to the jobs in the city and suburbs but your original post was about how little black lives are valued and I posted a story that showed otherwise. Thousands of people were inspired by this man's story and wanted to help. Race/racism have absolutely nothing to do with it, just as race/racism probably has nothing to do with how people responded to those 2 dead women.

Btw, Robertson's story caught the attention of local politicians-
Officials take up commuter's transportation issue.
 
Old 02-03-2015, 10:49 AM
 
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You did not read all of my threads in the post. I also noted that once the public became aware of the inequities....that they would step up to the plate and donate to the reward for the black female.

Here is the problem. Most inequities do not get highlighted in the news for people to act upon. Again, like in Selma Alabama in the 60's.....people (whites in the nation) did not act until the inequalities and brutality against blacks in the south was exposed on national and global TV. Hence, the question then becomes why were not blacks cries of inequality and injustice respected enough to act on prior to things being exposed on TV? Did whites simply feel that black people embellish their reality then....as they do today?

Here is the thing. Donating to this man is like going to church on Sunday for many. It simply an act that makes them feel good...but come Monday they can go back sin all over again. If you know anything about the Detroit area....THE PROBLEM IS THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM!!!! Most jobs are in the SUBURBS!!! The Suburbs, read whites, have always fought against regional transportation in in the Area that could get people from the city, read blacks, easily out into the suburbs. There are thousands of people every day who walk and transfer for hours just to get to work in the suburbs from the city. They are not in the news and no one is donating to get them a car.

The REAL solution is not donations....but approving regional transportation that can get people from the city to all corners of metro Detroit where the jobs are. Detroit is one of the most racially segregated areas in the country, if not the most racially segregated, and the regional transit reflects that and preserves that.

The real problem is work on controlling your crime in those areas.



Cue the litany of excuses.
 
Old 02-03-2015, 11:45 AM
 
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I agree with much in your post about inequality and the lack of public transportation for poor people to get to the jobs in the city and suburbs but your original post was about how little black lives are valued and I posted a story that showed otherwise. Thousands of people were inspired by this man's story and wanted to help. Race/racism have absolutely nothing to do with it, just as race/racism probably has nothing to do with how people responded to those 2 dead women.

Btw, Robertson's story caught the attention of local politicians-
Officials take up commuter's transportation issue.
No....my OP was exactly that. I am saying that such racial/class inequality is generally THE RULE OF THUMB. Its the DEFAULT condition behind the scenes before someone shines a spot light on it. 99.99999 percent of the people never get media spotlight and hence the inequities do not get exposed.

There are over 5 million people in the Detroit media market and area. People made donations. However, because of that you cannot say that there is no racial or class bias from that, for we do not know how much donations would have been made if the person doing the walking was white....do we?
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