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Old 02-04-2015, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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It eventually will be if this group destabilizes the ME and interrupts oil exports.
Nor really. Were in a position now to pivot and supply what we need strictly through Canada and South of the Border.
It will eventually be Europe's problem along with Asia.
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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Hitler certainly did. And the good Christans of Germany and parts of Europe went along.
ISIS are just fighting their war the way it always used to be fought .. with the utmost brutality and no regard for human life whether it be combatants or civilians.

Meanwhile, we think we can fight a 'clean' war. Drop a few bombs with surgical precision, only kill the bad guys and no one else gets hurt. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. We either go in hard or we don't go in at all. Either we want to get rid of ISIS or we can live with them.

What do you think Saddam would have done? Or Iran? They understand (understood in the case of Saddam) the middle eastern mindset and the likes of ISIS know it. ISIS think we are weak because we try to be 'civilized' and they will continue to take advantage of that fact. That is what happens when you forget that not everyone thinks like an American.
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:11 AM
 
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Try our government!
Government isn't a giant on that hill over there. We elected the people in government.

Take responsibility for something for once in your life.
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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It eventually will be if this group destabilizes the ME and interrupts oil exports.
Meh...Doubt it.

Stop looking for excuses to get involved.
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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Why didn't they execute the woman bomber upon capture and trial?
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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I think it is wonderful that Jordan decided to show its steel. That pig of a terrorist woman deserved to be set on fire, but hanging works. That poor pilot. I can't imagine the pain he suffered. Why do pacifist mouth breathers defend such evil?
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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ISIS are just fighting their war the way it always used to be fought .. with the utmost brutality and no regard for human life whether it be combatants or civilians.

Meanwhile, we think we can fight a 'clean' war. Drop a few bombs with surgical precision, only kill the bad guys and no one else gets hurt. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. We either go in hard or we don't go in at all. Either we want to get rid of ISIS or we can live with them.

What do you think Saddam would have done? Or Iran? They understand (understood in the case of Saddam) the middle eastern mindset and the likes of ISIS know it. ISIS think we are weak because we try to be 'civilized' and they will continue to take advantage of that fact. That is what happens when you forget that not everyone thinks like an American.
Normally we agree, but this time, not so much.

The solution to every problem is not a hammer and every problem is not a nail.

Going in with everything we have is exactly what ISIS wants. that's why they publish their brutality worldwide. To inflame us into rash actions. It will assure them of endless targets and endless recruits to their cause as we bomb and kill their children, mothers and daughters into oblivion as a side effect of going after them.
Face it. Without an AK in their hands, how do you know it's a terrorist or a village elder?

This war calls for laser surgery not a bigger hammer.

With all due respect, That's my opinion.
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Yeah, the Bush doctrine. He released over 500 prisoners from gitmo. I'll bet you have the 5 Obama released in mind?
I don't see much difference between Obama and Bush...do you?
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I don't see much difference between Obama and Bush...do you?
Well, right off the bat, I see that Bush started two wars and on the other hand, Obama finished those two wars.
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Old 02-04-2015, 11:44 AM
 
Location: USA
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In our case, it's a choice. United States doesn't have to be at war with anyone if we don't wanna be.

Americans just love war. That's all there is to it.
"Americans just love war"
Same as any other civilization in history. We are no different. Truly peaceful civilizations get killed off by their aggressive neighbors.
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