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View Poll Results: Where do you stand on marijuana legalization?
It should be illegal in all forms, including medical 32 13.56%
It should be legal for medical purposes only 36 15.25%
It should be legal in all forms, although I would never use it 80 33.90%
It should be legal in all forms and I would use it 88 37.29%
Voters: 236. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-06-2015, 09:00 AM
 
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In Holland it attracted the scum of Europe and in less than 10 years the number of crime families had gone from 3 to 93 and they brough all kinds of crime with them. Everything that is not bolted down disappears in Amsterdam.
That's because they decriminalized it instead of legalizing it. Decriminalizing it means it's illegal to produce or sell, but people caught smoking or possessing it don't go to jail. It's not a good strategy, it keeps the black market intact and takes away repercussions for possession from the users.

 
Old 02-06-2015, 09:05 AM
 
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To me, the poll shows that those of us who grew up in the generations understanding that all mind-altering drugs are destructive unless used under direction of doctors really screwed up when we allowed the horror of the druggy/pot-smoking idiots of the 60's to just go about their stupidity.

We are seeing the results of that "altered" mentality clear up into politics and those now in charge of business. Drugs alter the mind and usually not for the best interests of the user which reverberates into harming/destroying our economy and our society!
So you think the war on drugs hasn't had a huge destructive impact on society? You are in major denial if you feel that way. Prohibition doesn't work, you can't legislate away a cultural force. Cannabis and alcohol have been used by humans since the dawn of time, some laws aren't going to change that momentum.
 
Old 02-06-2015, 09:06 AM
 
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You just made a great point in regards to insurance companies! They put the employer in a corner, to the point that the employer really isn't in control.
The first thing I ask people that want to work for us is can they pass the drug test.

Many have been surprised.......because we are a small business and local......and it is just shoving mud.

But, the equipment we use is very dangerous.

And they do have to drive big trucks.
 
Old 02-06-2015, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Florida
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That's because they decriminalized it instead of legalizing it. Decriminalizing it means it's illegal to produce or sell, but people caught smoking or possessing it don't go to jail. It's not a good strategy, it keeps the black market intact and takes away repercussions for possession from the users.
Ah, the good old "we didn't take it far enough" argument.

Black market is alive and well in Colorado because the taxation ensures street pot will always be cheaper.
 
Old 02-06-2015, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Ah, the good old "we didn't take it far enough" argument.

Black market is alive and well in Colorado because the taxation ensures street pot will always be cheaper.
Not true- the black market is hurting in CO because the legal price is similar to street prices, and will likely become cheaper over time since the state Government had to refund some tax money they collected as they can legally only take so much. Bordering states that still have prohibition laws in place probably have seen an uptick in the black market for obvious reasons.

Admit it-you'd LOVE to get a tax refund from the Government for the simple reason that they are bringing in too much revenue.

Colorado May Have To Refund As Much As $30 Million In Pot Taxes
 
Old 02-06-2015, 09:17 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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-you are a logical person.

I wouldn't be surprised if there have been more first time users in Colorado, but I don't see the issue if they are adults. Most people are very ignorant about marijuana-it can be a wonderful herb for some people.
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It has nothing to do with being a pothead. It's blatantly obvious that the war on drugs is a complete and utter failure, and that the government has no right to prohibit law abiding citizens from growing and smoking a safe, harmless plant that has proven medicinal qualities.

Don't have to be a pothead to see that, it's common sense.

Reps to both of you. I guess you can't blame people for being misinformed when we've been spoonfed the "Reefer Madness" propaganda our whole lives! Some of us (smokers or not) have realized the BS for what it is, and there are those who profit off of keeping it illegal, and not being allowed for use for its medicinal values! Which I find personally immoral, given it's OK for someone to go to a doctor to get opiates for pain, yet they can't use something much more benign, not addictive, and less serious side effects. But of course, I guess it pays to keep people sick, and hooked on other crap! Big Pharma banks on it!

Now, I wouldn't go as far to say it is totally harmless, as nothing is, but it is a lot less dangerous than a lot of mind altering substances, legal or otherwise. Especially given that it is virtually impossible to OD from it. And to those who are misinformed, smoking a bit too much when you're not experienced, and getting a little paranoid, is NOT OD'ing! You won't die, and the effects are generally short lived! Christ, laying down to some chill music will do the trick in getting rid of the paranoia!


This country is quite divided. But I think that legalization of cannabis is one issue where the American people (a growing majority of us) from all political ideologies have seen through the BS, lies being spewed over the years, and the failure that is prohibition! Now if we could get agree on other issues as much as we do with this, then there may be hope for us yet.
 
Old 02-06-2015, 09:19 AM
 
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Interesting poll stats..

Self-medication...

Anybody bring up "Reefer Madness"? What a hoot of a movie..
 
Old 02-06-2015, 09:21 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Ah, the good old "we didn't take it far enough" argument.

Black market is alive and well in Colorado because the taxation ensures street pot will always be cheaper.

The Black Market is alive and well due to the federal government's policy on cannabis.
 
Old 02-06-2015, 09:24 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Interesting poll stats..

Self-medication...

Anybody bring up "Reefer Madness"? What a hoot of a movie..


Yep. Given the consensus it seems that the prohibitionists are getting it handed to them in this poll.
 
Old 02-06-2015, 09:38 AM
 
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