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View Poll Results: Will gay marriage be a hot button issue in 30 years?
Yes 8 10.00%
No 72 90.00%
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Old 02-06-2015, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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After the collapse of socialism, gay marriage will collapse as well.
There will be no "benefits" attached.

And since there's no progeny to benefit from the merger of property rights of the respective spouses, there is no logical nor legal reason to contract such a "marriage."

Don't presume this is somehow "anti-homosexual."
If two or more adults wish to merge property rights and endow survivors of the partnership, use a will, not a marriage compact.

AS to the laws that prosecuted "deviant behavior" that's a whole different issue, unrelated to a marriage contract.
Those who consent to be held to a "higher standard" of behavior are in a different category than those who retain their endowed rights of life, liberty, etc.
What do you mean there is no progeny? Many same sex couples have children either through adoption or through IVF or surrogacy.

Plus there is the small fact that not one single marriage requires reproduction to be legal.

 
Old 02-06-2015, 09:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
After the collapse of socialism, gay marriage will collapse as well.
There will be no "benefits" attached.

And since there's no progeny to benefit from the merger of property rights of the respective spouses, there is no logical nor legal reason to contract such a "marriage."

Don't presume this is somehow "anti-homosexual."
If two or more adults wish to merge property rights and endow survivors of the partnership, use a will, not a marriage compact.

AS to the laws that prosecuted "deviant behavior" that's a whole different issue, unrelated to a marriage contract.
Those who consent to be held to a "higher standard" of behavior are in a different category than those who retain their endowed rights of life, liberty, etc.
A couple issues. First, there is only marriage. Marriage does not have a sexual orientation. Second, we are not a socialist nation so I do not know what you are talking about. Third, opposite AND same gender have progeny but that doesn't matter b/c children are not a requirement for marriage. Fourth, a will does not guarantee that a surviving same gender partner receives what is in the will. The family can take that all away. A Trust would solve this issue but trusts can cost thousands of dollars to set up. Fifth, homosexuality is not a deviant behaviour. Finally, I do not know what you are taking about in your last sentence and therefore have no comment.
 
Old 02-06-2015, 09:23 PM
 
Location: North America
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Yes. See roe v. wade.

Granted, it will be settled law, and most voters won't care all that much, but opposition to SSM will probably still drive some elections. As will (still) roe v. wade.
To some degree. However, abortions support and opposition has remained pretty static. I don't foresee that being the same with Gay marriage. Younger people increasingly support it and likely will continue as Gay marriage becomes a normal part of American culture.
 
Old 02-06-2015, 09:33 PM
 
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To some degree. However, abortions support and opposition has remained pretty static. I don't foresee that being the same with Gay marriage. Younger people increasingly support it and likely will continue as Gay marriage becomes a normal part of American culture.
I don't think it will be as part of "American culture" as you think, especially since gays make up a tiny portion of the population. People will be more likely to see a Muslim wedding than a gay wedding.

So people will still oppose it just like how people are still against abortion, death penalty, and guns even though those are all legal.
 
Old 02-06-2015, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Will gay marriage still be an issue in 30 years?
It will continue to be an issue for as long as people opposed to it populate their imaginations with all things gay when they should be focusing on more important things.

[gaydreaming]
 
Old 02-06-2015, 09:56 PM
 
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No. American culture is in decline. ANYTHING goes until we destroy ourselves. Other cultures will replace us. THEY will reject our perversions. Christians will be a persecuted sect with no influence in political culture. Eventually we will be jailed for our Hate Speech/Thoughts.

Without the stabilizing nature of Christianity, we will all lose our rights and freedoms. The American Experiment is coming to an end. The Founders predicted it. I hope they would be pleased that their efforts lasted this long.
 
Old 02-06-2015, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I hope not, but then again we still have people in the government trying to tell women what they can and cannot do with their own vagina.
 
Old 02-06-2015, 10:00 PM
 
Location: North America
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I don't think it will be as part of "American culture" as you think, especially since gays make up a tiny portion of the population. People will be more likely to see a Muslim wedding than a gay wedding.

So people will still oppose it just like how people are still against abortion, death penalty, and guns even though those are all legal.
Except my generation holds the greatest level of support for it. What do you think our kids are going to think about it, if the vast majority of us support it already? I don't deny that there will always be opposition from some groups towards it. However, as people get more used to it, and the older generations begin to pass on, that opposition won't have the same level of support it does today.

Gay people make up around 2 to 3 percent of the population and Muslims make up around 2 percent. Even if you assume that the numbers aren't a tad lower than expected due to people not being entirely honest it's still equal. You also have to also remember that bi-sexual people will have same sex marriages as well. So the likelihood of you knowing someone in a same sex wedding is not as low as you are thinking it will me.
 
Old 02-06-2015, 10:01 PM
 
Location: North America
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No. American culture is in decline. ANYTHING goes until we destroy ourselves. Other cultures will replace us. THEY will reject our perversions. Christians will be a persecuted sect with no influence in political culture. Eventually we will be jailed for our Hate Speech/Thoughts.

Without the stabilizing nature of Christianity, we will all lose our rights and freedoms. The American Experiment is coming to an end. The Founders predicted it. I hope they would be pleased that their efforts lasted this long.
 
Old 02-06-2015, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I don't think it will be as part of "American culture" as you think, especially since gays make up a tiny portion of the population. People will be more likely to see a Muslim wedding than a gay wedding.

So people will still oppose it just like how people are still against abortion, death penalty, and guns even though those are all legal.
Guess that depends on how many gay and Muslim friends you have. I have been to a few straight and gay weddings so far in my life, and know there are probably a few more I will be going to in my life.
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