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View Poll Results: Where do you fall on the political spectrum?
Far right 7 9.09%
Right 12 15.58%
Centrist-leaning to right 16 20.78%
Centrist 10 12.99%
Centrist-leaning to left 18 23.38%
Left 14 18.18%
Far left 0 0%
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:10 AM
 
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Oh yeah. agreed.
Which is the position I take. The position that everyone forgets, but is the most mainstream position in Hispanic-American politics and probably Asian-American politics too (though I think they are more social moderates). We are not social liberals or fiscal conservatives. For that fact, neither are most working class whites, they just don't know it anymore

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Old 02-18-2017, 09:18 AM
 
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Which is the position I take. The position that everyone forgets, but is the most mainstream position in Hispanic-American politics and probably Asian-American politics too (though I think they are more social moderates). We are not social liberals or fiscal conservatives. For that fact, neither are most working class whites, they just don't know it anymore
Everyone has a right to their opinions, but to me, that is completely insane. The republicans are half insane, and the democrats are half insane. To me, fiscally liberal and socially conservative is taking the two insane halves of both parties and putting them together to form a completely insane package.

Socially conservative and fiscally liberal basically says to me that you want the government to be completely involved in every single aspect of our lives.
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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I started out a Barry Goldwater conservative. That would make me liberal today. I have not changed opinions much.

Pay your bills on time, mind your own business, don't hurt anybody.

That don't hurt anybody stuff includes poisoning everybody's air and water for profit.
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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Everyone has a right to their opinions, but to me, that is completely insane. The republicans are half insane, and the democrats are half insane. To me, fiscally liberal and socially conservative is taking the two insane halves of both parties and putting them together to form a completely insane package.

Socially conservative and fiscally liberal basically says to me that you want the government to be completely involved in every single aspect of our lives.
That's mainstream African-American, Hispanic-American, and mostly Asian-American politics. It's only white Americans that deal in this socially liberal, fiscally conservative or socially conservative, fiscal conservative nonsense.

Even so, most of us non-white Americans (who aren't black anyway) are socially conservative and fiscally liberal, we don't give a dang about legislating social issues.
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Old 02-18-2017, 09:56 AM
 
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That's mainstream African-American, Hispanic-American, and mostly Asian-American politics. It's only white Americans that deal in this socially liberal, fiscally conservative or socially conservative, fiscal conservative nonsense.

Even so, most of us non-white Americans (who aren't black anyway) are socially conservative and fiscally liberal, we don't give a dang about legislating social issues.
Just an observation, but "non-white Americans who aren't black" is another way of saying relatively recent immigrants.

So I'm wondering, the minority of Asians and Hispanics that have been here for generations, who do they more closely resemble?

As an example, I don't think George Takei could be called socially conservative by any stretch of the imagination.
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Old 02-18-2017, 01:03 PM
 
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Just an observation, but "non-white Americans who aren't black" is another way of saying relatively recent immigrants.

So I'm wondering, the minority of Asians and Hispanics that have been here for generations, who do they more closely resemble?

As an example, I don't think George Takei could be called socially conservative by any stretch of the imagination.
And yet that is where the direction we're headed, demographically. For Hispanics, it's tied to Catholicism, Catholicism basically preaches social conservatism and fiscal liberalism.
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Old 02-18-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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when I can't find any facts to back up my point
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