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View Poll Results: Are doctors in the US paid too much?
Yes, their salaries are far higher than they should be 21 23.60%
Yes for certain specialties, No for others 27 30.34%
No, their salaries are just right 27 30.34%
No, they aren't paid enough 14 15.73%
Voters: 89. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-08-2015, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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Have you looked at what health insurance actually pays for the services you get? The medical practices are getting squeezed big time. By the time a doctor pays the overhead for his office, student loans and malpractice insurance, it cannot be very easy to make a decent living after having spent so much on their education.
If a doctor is an employee of a major hospital, he has a chance at making a comfortable living, but not all can do this.
Our former family doctor had his own practice, in his own building. Partners came and went and he spent most of his time worrying about making ends meet, when all he really wanted was to take care of his patients. Ultimately, he sold his building and became an employee of a major hospital system.
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Old 02-08-2015, 08:04 AM
 
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The general practitioner, ER doctor, and on staff hospital internist don't get paid nearly as much as one would think, especially when you consider the very long hours hospital staff doctors put in. At our hospital, the ER doctors have a sleep room because they need to catch as much sleep as possible when there's a break between patients. Some specialist surgeons charge far too much. Something to consider is the patients they treat who won't pay their bills, the doctors do volunteer work with charity clinics and VA facilities, malpractice insurance cost, having to hire more staff to deal with insurance companies & laws, and paying back student loans. Good doctors will also continue their studies to stay abreast on the latest medical technology. Some of what they may have learned may later be proven to be wrong or a better way discovered.
My cousin is an ER doc and he is constantly posting pics of going here and going there. Racing his BMW, off to the gun range. Now my point is not that many do not put in long hours, just that it's a generalization.

The question is difficult and both sides are correct. Health care should not be left up to the markets BUT anything the government subsidizes only continues to get more expensive. It's too bad we do not have politicians willing to actually discuss this.
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Old 02-08-2015, 08:05 AM
 
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Other countries have a system figured out and still have doctors, but we're too "exceptional" for that to work here.
true, now check the malpractice insurance rates the doctors in other countries have to pay compared to what american doctors have to pay. here in the US doctors can pay as much as $200,000 per year in malpractice insurance premiums, even though they have great records.
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Old 02-08-2015, 08:06 AM
 
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Most are not overpaid. Given their contributions to society, they deserve to be better paid than investment bankers, and they aren't.
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Old 02-08-2015, 08:13 AM
 
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My cousin is an ER doc and he is constantly posting pics of going here and going there. Racing his BMW, off to the gun range. Now my point is not that many do not put in long hours, just that it's a generalization.

The question is difficult and both sides are correct. Health care should not be left up to the markets BUT anything the government subsidizes only continues to get more expensive. It's too bad we do not have politicians willing to actually discuss this.
ER docs have a cap on how many hours they can work in a week since they typically work 12 hour shifts at a time. ER docs do get a lot of days off, but that's only because the hours they do work tend to be quite brutal and their burnout rates are extremely high.
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Old 02-08-2015, 08:17 AM
 
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But why should something like healthcare be left up to the free market?
You forgot the emoticon to denote sarcasm
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Old 02-08-2015, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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My uncle is an ER doctor, I think (I am not 100% sure), he works probably around 45 hours a work week, but the schedule is quite flexible. He has no research or teaching responsibilities, he does community ER, so he works longer hours.

One of my aunt is a plastic surgeon. She makes way MORE money than my ER doctor uncle.

I don't think doctors are paid too much simply because important context should be considered when analyzing doctors’ wages.
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Old 02-08-2015, 09:39 AM
 
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Are plumbers still giving doctors a go for the money, or is blood still thicker than water?
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Old 02-08-2015, 11:31 AM
 
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But why should something like healthcare be left up to the free market?
Lower costs and higher efficiency.
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Old 02-08-2015, 11:36 AM
 
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Used to do some consulting work for private physicians, try and teach them how to squeeze more $ out of their practices by targeting lost revenue opportunities, avoiding billing mistakes, etc. Demand exceeded supply and I stopped doing this to avoid burnout and lost money I could get from much higher paying hospital networks.

You'd be amazed how many independent doctors keep their practices afloat by taking out multiple mortgages on their home. Their books are depressing honestly.
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