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Yep. Lot's of research has been done by paleo climate scientists using fossils. Are you not aware of it?
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2. solar activity
Yep lot's of research has been done by climate scientists into solar activity. Are you not aware of it?
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3. wobble in the eliptical orbit of the earth around the sun
Yep, the Milankovich cycles. All accounted for in climate science research. Are you not aware of that?
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4. volcanic activity
Yep, lot's of research has been done on volcanic activity by climate scientists. Are you not aware of it?
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5. the impact of other gases (water vapor and methane)
Yep, lot's of research has been done on the impact of other gases (water and methane) by climate scientists. Are you not aware of it?
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6. the fact that temperatures have not changed at all over the last 20 years
Well that's just false, and a rather silly statement to make.
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................................ just a few things.
Yes, it's called climate science. Apparently you're not aware of it?
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Unlike YOU, I actually-
1. have an advanced degree in science
2. have published extensively in the scientific literature
3. have formal training in bench science
4. have taken courses in statistics to understand the statistical validity of data
5. have taught at major universities
6. have edited papers for the scientific literature
7. understand the cornerstone of science- refuting the null hypothesis.
So what? If you have no training or expertise in any of the fields of climate science and you are unaware of even the basic science involved or any of the research (which you have just proven) then why should anyone take your uninformed opinions on this topic seriously?
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I think we've got enough evidence to begin to look into criminal conspiracy charges against those supporting global warming and measures and government policy aimed at combatting it. Some like Obama will claim stupidity but those like Al Gore who have made millions in the scam may face prison.
Such a shame that the facts are just not on the side of your conspiracy theory.
that may be correct IF you only take the last 150 years into account. but if you look at the last 2 million years(actually 65 million years, but i wont confuse you too much) you will note that according to the geological record there has been a general COOLING trend. for instance this interglacial period is ten degrees cooler than the previous interglacial, well outside the margin of scientific error.
That's not exactly true. Some areas of the globe were warmer and some areas of the globe were cooler during the last interglacial. And do you know where the earth was in the Milankovitch cycles during the past interglacial compared to the present time? If you want to gain some understanding of earth's past climates and the relevance to the present, try watching a lecture from the 2009 American Geophysical Union (AGU) conference by Professor Richard Alley.
I just read the data from NOAA and the IPCC reports. They have pretty little graphs showing the temps 10F warmer. In fact, their pretty graphs show long-term oscillations of high and lower temps in short-term cycles over the long-term downward trend.
You can debate the meaning and cause of those cycles, but if you discount the existence or validity of the data you're a true cultist.
Can you please give a link to the NOAA website page and the chapter and page number from the IPCC AR5 report that says global average temperatures were 10 degrees higher during the last interglacial than the present? Because I can't find anything that says that. If you just read them, it shouldn't be too much of a bother.
I'm beginning to think that deniers are the real alarmists... We have a carbon tax here, and corporation taxes, business taxes and personal taxes have all decreased since the carbon tax came into effect in 2008....The net corporate tax rate I pay is 11%....What do you pay?
Actually, it is the alarmists that are the real deniers, as you people relentlessly deny anything that does not conform to your talking points on this issue. Apparently you think that makes your presentation stronger, but in fact it is just the opposite. It is like seeing reviews for a product on the manufacturer's website that are 100% glowing testimonials, 100% of the time, without a single word of dissent.
It does not take a genius to realize propaganda when you encounter it.
Actually, it is the alarmists that are the real deniers, as you people relentlessly deny anything that does not conform to your talking points on this issue. Apparently you think that makes your presentation stronger, but in fact it is just the opposite. It is like seeing reviews for a product on the manufacturer's website that are 100% glowing testimonials, 100% of the time, without a single word of dissent.
It does not take a genius to realize propaganda when you encounter it.
Well spoken. In a cult, of course, all information and data which threatens the core beliefs of the cult will be summarily rejected.
Why? In actual science, new data and information is welcomed. In a cult, any contrary information is villified, derided, and rejected without thought.
Make no mistake, AGW is the enemy of valid science.
Well spoken. In a cult, of course, all information and data which threatens the core beliefs of the cult will be summarily rejected.
Why? In actual science, new data and information is welcomed. In a cult, any contrary information is villified, derided, and rejected without thought.
Make no mistake, AGW is the enemy of valid science.
Some make their living off the fraud.
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