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Old 02-13-2015, 08:51 AM
 
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Yeah, no. The JRW team beat another team 43-2. How classless and lacking in sportsmanship is that? Maybe it wasn't their fault though, because subconsciously they were programmed to run up the score on a White team? The poor kids might not even know they're racist to the bone.

Seriously though, the whistle blower is the coach of the opposing team that was beaten 43-2. He "later filed a formal complaint to Little League International, claiming JRW manipulated its district boundaries to include players who weren’t supposed to be within the JRW district." So it appears you're right about p*ssing off the wrong people. The bottom line is if you're going to be classless and run up the score 43-2 while cheating, make sure the other team doesn't know about your cheating and can't simply file a formal complaint about it.
Racist to the bone for playing hard? stop it. LOL...

Pretty sure JRW runs up the score on anyone they play who can't get 3 outs. We have no idea if they were hitting homeruns or if Evergreen was throwing ball after ball and walking a ton of runs in.

The ump or coaches should have stopped the game. That isn't on the kids.

A woman has come forward and said Evergreen Parks filled out her sons application and allowed him to play on their team a few years ago. Janes claims that kid played in the house league but not for the All Star team. However, the person who has all the paperwork is in California for training so he can't get the info right now.

Evergreen Park whistleblower answers allegations of cheating | Chicago

He better be right about this or it will look real bad on his part. Honestly, the way he describes the chaos of signing kids up it and not wanting to turn kids away really shows how chaotic all of this is...
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Old 02-13-2015, 08:53 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The Little League World Series Champions from Chicago were stripped of their title for cheating. Piecing together reports I've read, it sounds like the coaches created a phony map of the boundaries to expand their recruiting territory and it's confirmed that at least one player is from outside the borders, but had it fixed to include him. The problem is the team is all Black.

- The ineligible player's Mother doesn't deny he was ineligible, but instead accused Little League of investigating only because the team is Black.

"I wholeheartedly believe if the boys were not African-American that all of this probing and prodding into what the newscaster [said] this morning was not an isolated incident about boundaries and Little League" wouldn't have happened, she said.".

- Jesse Jackson managed to be standing on camera right behind Mom of course and he sounded off as well.

Jackson asked, "Is this about boundaries or about race?"

- Now Rahm Emanuel has gotten involved calling the Little League President directly.
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel called Keener and the two spoke for 10 minutes, a spokeswoman for the mayor, Kelley Quinn, said. Emanuel told the Little League official that the players didn't deserve to be punished. The organization should have sanctioned the adults, he said.


"You have turned them into the perpetrators when they are the victims," Emanuel told him, according to his spokeswoman. "You know what they have done for Chicago, and let's face it, you know what they've done for your tournament."


- How can peoplehonestly argue that the kids should get to keep the title/trophy?Why even have rules? If I'm a coach, why wouldn't I roll the dice next year and stack my team with a few ineligibles?As long as we win, the kids get to keep the title/trophy anyhow.

Jackie Robinson West Parents 'Totally Blindsided,' Rev. Jackson Cites Race - Roseland - DNAinfo.com Chicago
Chicago? Gerrymander boundaries? Is anyone really surprised by that?
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Old 02-13-2015, 08:53 AM
 
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What about the kids on the losing team?
Play harder and realize that life ISN'T fair....

You think Bill Gates, politicians, business, college sports all play fair?

This doesn't mean they should cheat but realize some will and if you play hard enough you can still beat them.
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Old 02-13-2015, 08:55 AM
 
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A lot compared to where? Your hometown or state?

Doubt it.
Of course you do. You usually don't agree with others when they say something you don't like.

You probably think the Daley family was as pure as the driven snow.

By the way, where are the last 2 Governor's of Illinois?

" June 10, 2014
"The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

1. Mississippi
2. Louisiana
3. Tennessee
4. Illinois
5. Pennsylvania
6. Alabama
7. Alaska
8. South Dakota
9. Kentucky
10. Florida

That these places landed on the list isn’t exactly surprising. Illinois, which has gain notoriety for its high-profile corruption cases in recent years"

10 most corrupt states in America - Fortune

By the way where I live isn't on the list.
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Old 02-13-2015, 08:58 AM
 
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It's a lesson learned for the kids. Not only do they learn that cheating isn't fair, it hurts people. They learn that if you don't have integrity and honesty, self esteem is a sham. Accolades and trophies without having earned them are meaningless.
Hopefully these kids will grow up to be better than their coaches and parents.
that's a fantasy...

If the Patriots are found to have a few guys with steroids on the team it won't change the fact that they won the SB last year.

This is America... I used to think that way but the reality is totally different. How many MLB players have returned their trophies or had their money stripped from them after they were caught cheating?

Did Braun give his MVP trophy back after he finally admitted he doped? NOPE
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Old 02-13-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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Of course you do. You usually don't agree with others when they say something you don't like.

You probably think the Daley family was as pure as the driven snow.

By the way, where are the last 2 Governor's of Illinois?

" June 10, 2014
"The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

1. Mississippi
2. Louisiana
3. Tennessee
4. Illinois
5. Pennsylvania
6. Alabama
7. Alaska
8. South Dakota
9. Kentucky
10. Florida

That these places landed on the list isn’t exactly surprising. Illinois, which has gain notoriety for its high-profile corruption cases in recent years"

10 most corrupt states in America - Fortune

By the way where I live isn't on the list.
who cares...lol
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Old 02-13-2015, 09:05 AM
 
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JRW is lawyering up and requesting Little League prove they investigated all the other teams the same way.

Jackie Robinson West enlists lawyers over scandal that cost title - Chicago Tribune

They also said the trophy is in Cabrini Greens Projects and they have to come get it after 10PM if they really want it. Until then.. they are the champs.
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Old 02-13-2015, 09:07 AM
 
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He's just trying to thread bend and distract from the topic because he realizes now that there's no defense for what JRW did.
Find a post of me defending JRW. Just one.
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Old 02-13-2015, 09:07 AM
 
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Play harder and realize that life ISN'T fair....

You think Bill Gates, politicians, business, college sports all play fair?

This doesn't mean they should cheat but realize some will and if you play hard enough you can still beat them.
Sure, JRW could have lost despite cheating. Maybe they could have won without cheating. We'll never know, will we, because they intentionally cheated.

The adults who devised the cheating scheme didn't buy into your silly slogan that 'if you play hard enough you can still beat cheaters.' Maybe the next phony team should announce before the LLWS that they have ringers so the other teams can play harder.
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Old 02-13-2015, 09:33 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Default Little League World Series team stripped of title, racism alleged

The coaches perpetrated the crime. They cheated. They were judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. They new the rules and they broke them. The kids may have been blameless, but a team is judged by the sum of it's parts.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
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