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Old 02-14-2015, 12:00 PM
 
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The real first Crusade started when Muslims invaded Christian, Jewish, Zoroastrian, and other lands.
And some Christians and Jews welcomed the Muslims over their past rulers.

 
Old 02-14-2015, 12:07 PM
 
Location: USA
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Then I am waiting for the Pagan crusade to reclaim Europe. They all have to spread. I dare you to name one land that was not anything else before it was Christian. Your argument is nonsense. I sure hope the Native Americans don't get word of your post either.

"Whole European civilization" in danger? The furthest Islam spread to Western Europe was Spain, where Jews, Christians, and Muslims lived alongside each other.
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And some Christians and Jews welcomed the Muslims over their past rulers.
And that never lasted long, as the Muslims took over. You Apologist are wrong in the peaceful expansion of Islam. We can see from ISIS, Alqueda, the Taliban, the Boka Haram, and the Attacks in Paris, the UK, the US, Australia, the Philippines and 1400 years of War between Sunnis, Shias, and Suffis on how violent Islam can be and spreads. Sure you can find plenty of moderate Muslims, but there is always violent Islamist and it's getting Worse. And this is all current news, not 1000 year old crusades.
 
Old 02-14-2015, 12:08 PM
 
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If these places are unwelcoming, there is lack of access for them to education and jobs, and a sense of ostracism, then why go there? Should I go to Saudi Arabia and then start blowing people up bc it's so hot there? Or should I not go there in the first place if I don't like heat?

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The "muslim problem" in the E.U. is as much a failure of a clannish European culture, as it is a problem of "terrorism". All folks have a natural tendency to group together for self protection whenever faced with an "unwelcoming" local culture. In fact even the word "ghetto" originated in Europe, to describe the enclaves of the first "middle eastern" immigrants to Europe… the Jews!

And now a lot of our own "clannish" folks, seem to wanna whip up intolerance and anti-muslim hysteria, to "import" the same problem over here!

European Muslims feel 'isolated'
Gallup poll says lack of access to education and jobs reinforcing a sense of ostracism.
 
Old 02-14-2015, 12:09 PM
 
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That sure didn't last for long. You Apologist are wrong in the peaceful expansion of Islam. We can see from ISIS, Alqueda, the Taliban, the Boka Haram, and the Attacks in Paris, the UK, the US, Australia, the Philippines and 1400 years of War between Sunnis, Shias, and Suffis on how violent Islam can be and spreads. Sure you can find plenty of moderate Muslims, but there is always violent Islamist and it's getting Worse.
Sorry, what did I apologize for? You seem to want to look to history, but will exclude the facts you don't like. I have apologized for nothing in the past or present and I guaranteed you cant find a post in which I did. Was it violent? Absolutely. But at the same time, everywhere and everybody was.
 
Old 02-14-2015, 09:37 PM
 
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And that never lasted long, as the Muslims took over. You Apologist are wrong in the peaceful expansion of Islam. We can see from ISIS, Alqueda, the Taliban, the Boka Haram, and the Attacks in Paris, the UK, the US, Australia, the Philippines and 1400 years of War between Sunnis, Shias, and Suffis on how violent Islam can be and spreads. Sure you can find plenty of moderate Muslims, but there is always violent Islamist and it's getting Worse. And this is all current news, not 1000 year old crusades.
Is this supposed to be taken seriously. Western christian nations are the most violent, war mongers, genocidal nations ever known in human history. After being perpetually at war with each other, they took their rage on the world. Muslims did not exterminate the natives in north America, the aboriginal people of Australia, or 2/3 of the Jewish population of Europe. The scale of the massacres perpetrated and the war casualties was unprecedented. Let's not even talk about violence against natives in south America or against African Americans.
 
Old 02-14-2015, 11:40 PM
 
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Is this supposed to be taken seriously. Western christian nations are the most violent, war mongers, genocidal nations ever known in human history. After being perpetually at war with each other, they took their rage on the world. Muslims did not exterminate the natives in north America, the aboriginal people of Australia, or 2/3 of the Jewish population of Europe. The scale of the massacres perpetrated and the war casualties was unprecedented. Let's not even talk about violence against natives in south America or against African Americans.
Agree .
 
Old 02-15-2015, 02:26 AM
 
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and when europeans invade you get disease, drugs, genocide, multiculturalism, gay marriage, feminism, racemixing, hypergamy, racism, atheism, fast food

islam: respectful, modest, cultured, traditional society
 
Old 02-15-2015, 06:54 AM
 
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and when europeans invade you get disease, drugs, genocide, multiculturalism, gay marriage, feminism, racemixing, hypergamy, racism, atheism, fast food

islam: respectful, modest, cultured, traditional society
Until they cut your head off.
 
Old 02-15-2015, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Is this supposed to be taken seriously. Western christian nations are the most violent, war mongers, genocidal nations ever known in human history. After being perpetually at war with each other, they took their rage on the world. Muslims did not exterminate the natives in north America, the aboriginal people of Australia, or 2/3 of the Jewish population of Europe. The scale of the massacres perpetrated and the war casualties was unprecedented. Let's not even talk about violence against natives in south America or against African Americans.
Something called the Enlightenment developed in the Christian West. That is why we are discussing if gays should be allowed to be married, not if gays should be stoned. Much of the Arab world missed out on the Enlightenment.

It is the Christian West that has all but eliminated slavery in the parts of the world where it has influence.

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/su...nt-by-2741.ece
 
Old 02-15-2015, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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and when europeans invade you get disease, drugs, genocide, multiculturalism, gay marriage, feminism, racemixing, hypergamy, racism, atheism, fast food

islam: respectful, modest, cultured, traditional society
racemixing and racism?

So your solution of end racemixing is?
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