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Old 02-16-2015, 12:04 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Few did, most took the path of least resistance to survive. What's more important, the right to life or liberty. Slaves really didn't get to chose and still don't.
They didn't have a choice, because they were an investment... an asset.
Once here, they were treated better than any employee after reconstruction of the south.
They went from an asset, to a liability.
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Old 02-16-2015, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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They didn't have a choice, because they were an investment... an asset.
Once here, they were treated better than any employee after reconstruction of the south.
They went from an asset, to a liability.
Then you see my point, they were either a slave and given life or killed and given liberty.
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Old 02-16-2015, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Unfortunately, slavery existed before the Constitution and people that benefitted from it tried to justify it with all kinds of insane arguments. Fortunately, it was abovlished by the 13th Amendment which makes it unconstitutional...as it should have been all along.
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Old 02-17-2015, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The government may own my ass but I own my mind. If you do not want to pay taxes just declare yourself OUTLAW and stop.
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Old 02-17-2015, 07:35 AM
 
Location: *
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They didn't have a choice, because they were an investment... an asset.
Once here, they were treated better than any employee after reconstruction of the south.
They went from an asset, to a liability.
Stating the obvious, however all along they were people & not property.
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Old 02-17-2015, 11:23 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Then you see my point, they were either a slave and given life or killed and given liberty.

Life got really tough for former slaves after reconstruction. 1000's went back to the plantations they were freed from, for food and shelter, working the fields in return.
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Old 06-20-2015, 06:24 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Today you will work ¼-½ of the year in slavery to your government.
True. And even more so in the much more heavily taxed European countries. In addition to some pretty hefty income taxes, even on those with only very modest incomes, there's the VAT tax:

UK: 20%
Italy: 22%
France: 20%
Germany: 19%
Norway: 25%
Sweden: 25%
etc...
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Old 06-20-2015, 07:19 AM
 
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Was the Constitution initially created to limit government or to give people rights ?

How did we end up in the current master - slave relationship ? Government being the master and people being the slaves.
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Old 06-20-2015, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I constantly hear people talking about the constitution as if it was "America's Bible"
I have a question... Is slavery constitutional?
(and I'm aware of the 13th ammendment.... which is not in the constitution)

I ask this because I was reading the constitution and found this paragraph

Article 4, Section 2, Clause 3 (Fugitive Slave Clause)
"No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due."
Buying someone who has been kidnapped, should never be legal.
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Old 06-20-2015, 03:22 PM
 
Location: DC
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Is stupid Constitutional? I would hope not but we have a lot of stupid in this country.
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