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Old 02-16-2015, 06:42 PM
 
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Sorry, you are incorrect. Saddam hosted Al Queda and supported attacking America.
Please.

The 9/11 Commission disagrees.

Al Qaeda-Hussein Link Is Dismissed (washingtonpost.com)

George Tenet disagrees:
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could never verify that there was any Iraqi authority, direction and control, complicity with al-Qaida for 9/11 or any operational act against America, period.
Welcome back, Tony - Salon.com

The Senate's Intelligence Committee disagrees:

Saddam had no links to al-Qaeda - World - theage.com.au

Yeah, Dick Cheney would run his trap about a link all the time, but if that's your witness, you'd better have a friendly jury.
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Old 02-16-2015, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Why, to stop his rampant gathering of massive stockpiles of WMD, of course. Also, 9/11 changed everything. Also, he was like buddies with Al Queda. And finally, because just asking that question makes you a terrorist-coddling liberal who hates America and why can't you just support the troops? Besides, we'll be greeted as liberators.

Sorry, that was a 2003 flashback, there.

We had to remove SH because invading Iraq had been high on the PNAC wishlist since forever, the GWB administration was a who's who of PNAC and the US public was willing to let their justified anger over 9/11 be redirected. Hey, opportunity.
This is the answer right here. The Project for The New American Century needed Saddam gone. GW was not a signer to the original statement of principles but Dick, Donald, Paul, Bill and Jeb were. Jeb will never get my vote.
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Old 02-16-2015, 08:26 PM
 
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Sorry, but you haven't a clue. Don't forget the 20+ times Americans were attached and killed by Al Quaeda.

From the Marine Barracks in Lebanon to killing the handicapped man on the cruise ship, airliner kidnapping and murder right up to 9/11, American never stood up and said "Not only NO but HE!! NO!" There were over 20 attacks against us up to 9/11. Bottom line is that America has to stop the terrorists and that will take anniliating them from the face of the earth. When we start having the attacks here in America and some of the do-gooders, don't-shoot-women-and-children even if they are carrying a bomb, ridiculous rules of war, etc., get thrown out and our military can go in and do the job right, only then will tAmerica and the world around us will be safe again.

The mentality of the terrorists requires very strong consequences to be brought back to them for their actions. They ONLY understand strength; i.e., kick 'em hard in the a$$! Diplomacy to them is weakness. BO is super weak and lost the war we had already won in Iraq. Stupid, stupid, stupid!

Yes, the non-terrorist Muslims of the middle east do want democracy...but each different country and culture will structure same differently to fit their culture and way of life.
I actually do have a clue, thank you And since when was Saddam Hussien considered the leader of Al Quaeda. That wasn't even the reason for going after him. And there will always be terrorist groups no matter what we do. But we can't police the world.
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Old 02-16-2015, 08:47 PM
 
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No one is seeing what George Bush full intention was. To get the non radical middle eastern countries to start helping in the fight of radical Muslims. And it is working.

Jordon and Egypt both now are taking matters into their own hands because of the ISIS issues.

Bush should get the credit for this as this was his entire intention from the beginning. Keeping the fight over there instead of here and having those countries fight the same battle against the radicals.

+1 for George Bush.
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Old 02-16-2015, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No one is seeing what George Bush full intention was. To get the non radical middle eastern countries to start helping in the fight of radical Muslims. And it is working.

Jordon and Egypt both now are taking matters into their own hands because of the ISIS issues.

Bush should get the credit for this as this was his entire intention from the beginning. Keeping the fight over there instead of here and having those countries fight the same battle against the radicals.

+1 for George Bush.
Yeah...that's the ticket...Bush planned all this 15 years ago. You should take that to SNL.
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Old 02-16-2015, 09:05 PM
 
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No one is seeing what George Bush full intention was. To get the non radical middle eastern countries to start helping in the fight of radical Muslims. And it is working.

Jordon and Egypt both now are taking matters into their own hands because of the ISIS issues.

Bush should get the credit for this as this was his entire intention from the beginning. Keeping the fight over there instead of here and having those countries fight the same battle against the radicals.

+1 for George Bush.

You can't possibly believe that.
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Old 02-17-2015, 05:04 AM
 
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War are fought because of two things, money and power.
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Old 02-17-2015, 05:12 AM
 
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Ask these folks........

Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction


"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 20
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Old 02-17-2015, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Only one guy could order our forces to invade Iraq.

And it wasn't anyone in congress.

Carry on.

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Old 02-17-2015, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Sure he was an evil corrupt dictator but he was no actual threat to us and he kept the Middle East in order with an iron fist.
He tried to kill dad.
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