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Old 02-17-2015, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Set your own minimum wage. If a job doesn't pay what you think you are worth, don't take it..
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Old 02-17-2015, 01:34 AM
 
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I didn't see the response if it was posted, but I have a question:

If minimum wage goes up, and our regular job "minimums" do not, how does this make sense? Salaried jobs should also be adjusted, right..? Or am I wrong.

I had a convenience store job when the minimum wage was scheduled to increase at the end of the year. There was a circulating joke to the effect that if our manager did not get a raise by the end of the year, the hourly employees would be making more than the manager.
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Old 02-17-2015, 02:27 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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Set your own minimum wage. If a job doesn't pay what you think you are worth, don't take it..

That doesn't mean anything when you need to eat & and pay bills. You will take anything that you can get.
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Old 02-17-2015, 06:21 AM
 
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Pay 'em $2.50, and you can hire 6 workers!

He wouldn't, if he was smart. Time for his boss to pony up on that raise.
Sure, and once he gets that raise, another welder gets fired and he gets to work twice as hard to make up for it and the prices the company charges go up leading to a drop in customers which causes less revenue to come in and the welder ends up getting his wages cut back down to where they were.

It's truly amazing how leftists think that all the money in the world is going into CEO pockets, and if they pass higher taxes, force higher wages, pass expensive business regulations, mandate more benefits, etc that the CEOs will just cheerfully take all that money out of their pockets to pay for a skyrocketing cost of doing business. That's the way it works in your fantasies, but that isn't the way it works in real life. In real life, profit margins usually aren't very high, making a CEO who makes 100 times more than a worker does doesn't pay for a raise for 1000 workers, and increased costs of doing business are passed on to consumers. I think your forehead smacks have affected your thinking capacity. Either that you just don't care about the actual consequences for real people in the real world dealing with actual economic reality as long as you can spout your self righteous rhetoric.
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Old 02-17-2015, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It's truly amazing how leftists think that all the money in the world is going into CEO pockets, and if they pass higher taxes, force higher wages, pass expensive business regulations, mandate more benefits, etc that the CEOs will just cheerfully take all that money out of their pockets to pay for a skyrocketing cost of doing business. That's the way it works in your fantasies, but that isn't the way it works in real life. In real life, profit margins usually aren't very high, making a CEO who makes 100 times more than a worker does doesn't pay for a raise for 1000 workers, and increased costs of doing business are passed on to consumers. I think your forehead smacks have affected your thinking capacity. Either that you just don't care about the actual consequences for real people in the real world dealing with actual economic reality as long as you can spout your self righteous rhetoric.
Corporations in this country are sitting on more than a trillion dollars in assets. The stock market is at all time highs, and some companies had their best year ever in 2014. To pretend most CEOs aren't doing very well right now is completely disingenuous.
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Old 02-17-2015, 08:28 AM
 
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That doesn't mean anything when you need to eat & and pay bills. You will take anything that you can get.
No, you take what you are worth. If you are only worth the minimum, then that is what you are paid. If you want more, make yourself worth more.
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Old 02-17-2015, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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That doesn't mean anything when you need to eat & and pay bills. You will take anything that you can get.
No, YOU will take anything you can get. Learn to improvise and adjust. Never accept the status quo.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:51 AM
 
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Do you think they're unsuccessfully looking for jobs though, or do you think they're genuinely just loafing around?

I don't know anyone who I'd call lazy, except maybe one person.

Most people I know are overachieving workaholics if anything. I feel lazy sleeping even 8 hours a day compared to some people I know. lol
I personally know people who saw how long their unemployment compensation would last, and just went fishing and goofed off until they got to about 8-12 weeks left, and then started to look for work.

I guess it depends on the amount of the compensation and your financial situation. If you are single, with no bills, then you might goof off, but a person with a mortgage and children might hit the streets the week they were laid off.
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Old 02-17-2015, 03:47 PM
 
Location: London
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Pay 'em $2.50, and you can hire 6 workers!

He wouldn't, if he was smart. Time for his boss to pony up on that raise.
WHY must people insist on being extreme about everything?

There is such thing as a balance to strike. The exact number is debatable, but I do think $15/hr might be prohibitively high, particularly for new small businesses.
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Old 02-17-2015, 06:37 PM
 
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No, you take what you are worth. If you are only worth the minimum, then that is what you are paid. If you want more, make yourself worth more.

According to your logic, a union contract magically can add several multiples to the worth of a person's labor.

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