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Old 02-18-2015, 05:32 PM
 
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Don't worry. Obama said we can all get a free college degree. Remember ?
He dropped that
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Old 02-18-2015, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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It's whichever will support leftism at the moment.

Drone strikes showed that Bush was a war criminal. Drone strikes show that Obama is strong on terror.

Republicans are the party of the out of touch elitists, but Democrats are more highly educated than Republicans.

Republicans are the party of the wealthy, but it shows the superiority of liberalism that blue states are wealthier than red states.

Democrats are the party of the working class American, but Democrats want to legalize millions of foreign workers to drive working class American wages down and put them on the unemployment line.

Democrats will fight against any attempt to ban abortions because it is a constitutional right, but Democrats propose and support gun control to limit the constitutional right of the 2nd amendment.

Democrats can't abide Arizona's state immigration laws because they violate federal immigration law, but Democrats support San Francisco declaring itself a safe haven city in open violation of federal immigration law.

Democrats said that Bill Clinton's sexual harassment of underlings was a private matter that should be best left alone, but Democrats opposed Clarence Thomas's appointment to the Supreme Court on the grounds that he sexually harassed underlings.

The amount of partisan hypocrisy engaged in by liberals in government, in the media, and on this forum is a clear indication that liberals in general have no principles whatsoever. They will say and do whatever benefits them at the moment, and completely reverse it if something else benefits them more in the next moment.
Good analysis.
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Old 02-20-2015, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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He dropped that

A hundred years ago , it was rare that people had schooling beyond the 6th grade if even that much. The average person could make a honest living and didn't need schooling beyond that! Thomas Alva Edison and many other great men had no formal schooling at all! Today not only is that inadequate preparation for working, even the high school diploma I becoming inadequate. We may have to consider adding a 13th and maybe a 14th grade to high school to give every public and private school graduate a sufficient education at least to just get started in a persons working life! If more education and learing is needed then its on to 4-10 years in a higher education institution like a University or Polytechnic Higher School.
For in many professions you need a doctoral degree unless you want to remain a simple technician.
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Old 02-20-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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A hundred years ago , it was rare that people had schooling beyond the 6th grade if even that much. The average person could make a honest living and didn't need schooling beyond that! Thomas Alva Edison and many other great men had no formal schooling at all! Today not only is that inadequate preparation for working, even the high school diploma I becoming inadequate. We may have to consider adding a 13th and maybe a 14th grade to high school to give every public and private school graduate a sufficient education at least to just get started in a persons working life! If more education and learing is needed then its on to 4-10 years in a higher education institution like a University or Polytechnic Higher School.
For in many professions you need a doctoral degree unless you want to remain a simple technician.
we dont need extra years or free cc .
We need fix the system
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Old 02-20-2015, 11:20 AM
 
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I don't understand the point of the thread really. There are plenty of positions available for skilled workers.

And FWIW, I have a degree in English and I am gainfully employed and one of the primary factors why I am always gainfully employed is that I have excellent writing abilities honed by my studies.

FWIW, I work in procurement and contracting, mostly in capital construction projects. I am working toward a Master's in Public Administration after considering an MBA but since I mostly work in government, I figured an MPA would be better.

If people who are highly educated don't have jobs, I personally feel that it is due to lack of effort or lack of initiative to move somewhere in which their field is in demand.
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Old 02-20-2015, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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It's your responsibility to increase your skill level to raise your earning potential.

I pay skilled painters $20 an hour. I pay skilled carpenters, plumbers and electricians upwards of $50 an hour.

Learn a trade. Practice. Stop whining.
Really depends. Average skilled labor makes a living, and that's about it. Most painters would love $20/hr, and by that I mean, on the books, not cash money. Many tradesman in the crappier states are working for cash-money because the work is there, but it is unstable. Employers can't offer full time employment like the "good ole days"... When America had average jobs for the average folks.

Top notch skilled labor still does well though. But who wanted to invest the effort learning at a starting wage of $10/hr? How do you afford tools? Why buy tools when the work is never stable???
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Old 02-20-2015, 09:37 PM
 
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As part of her MBA in GSCM, yes. GSCM requires a lot of creative problem-solving to streamline the process, reduce costs of production, and eliminate problems, so local plants don't have to shut down.

Engineers ARE creative problem-solvers. That's what they do. How do people not know that?
Engineers are math and science people. It's all about numbers. Tell them to do research and write a research paper on the problems with middle east or any other country they couldn't to it because they have no idea. Sorry they are not creative.
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Old 02-20-2015, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Engineers are math and science people. It's all about numbers. Tell them to do research and write a research paper on the problems with middle east or any other country they couldn't to it because they have no idea. Sorry they are not creative.
Writing a research paper isn't creative. Writing a research paper is simply investigating facts from other sources and organizing them into a paper. Great musicians are creative, great artists are creative. Anyone who innovates is a creative. That includes engineers and scientists.
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Old 02-20-2015, 10:18 PM
 
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Lefties are cute.

One thread is about the "booming economy" and the next is about the lack of jobs.

Which is it?
I mentioned a booming economy in a thread as something we need, not something we have. We may never have it if our focus is on global fairness.
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Old 02-20-2015, 10:19 PM
 
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Really depends. Average skilled labor makes a living, and that's about it. Most painters would love $20/hr, and by that I mean, on the books, not cash money. Many tradesman in the crappier states are working for cash-money because the work is there, but it is unstable. Employers can't offer full time employment like the "good ole days"... When America had average jobs for the average folks.

Top notch skilled labor still does well though. But who wanted to invest the effort learning at a starting wage of $10/hr? How do you afford tools? Why buy tools when the work is never stable???
If it didn't cost the employer so much to hire full time employees, there would be much more opportunity.

Over taxation and over regulation make it very difficult for those without business sense to earn a decent living, no matter how good you are at your trade.

As always, government and bureaucrats are the problem.
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