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Old 02-15-2015, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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it's friggin dangerously cold out there! 0 degrees, -22 with the wind chill in NY, coldest February on record. Not a peep from the weather channels or the media about it. Where are those damn tin-foil-hat global warming alarmists now?
It's NICE here in California.

I loves that globbel warming. Sorry you folks are in an ice age.

 
Old 02-15-2015, 11:27 PM
 
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Is the goal to prevent the climate from changing? If so, what is the "normal" climate that needs to be maintained? I have never come across anyone willing to address those questions.
whatever can be taxed is the one that needs to change.

In all seriousness, you ask a great question. The fact is humans absolutely,positively thrive in warmer climates and when CO2 levels are higher. Crops are more plentiful, water more plentiful, nature thrives, humans thrive.
 
Old 02-15-2015, 11:29 PM
 
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It's NICE here in California.

I loves that globbel warming. Sorry you folks are in an ice age.
lol. look at the Carolinas...it's going down to single digits in the Southeast this week!
 
Old 02-15-2015, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Is the goal to prevent the climate from changing? If so, what is the "normal" climate that needs to be maintained? I have never come across anyone willing to address those questions.
Perhaps you need to do a bit of research...That question has been answered many times by science.
 
Old 02-15-2015, 11:32 PM
 
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Yeah, it's COLD out there, so how can it be WARMING? nyuk nyuk.

Just because the earth's atmosphere is warming and accumulating carbon dioxide does not mean that the weather EVERYWHERE is just going to consistently be like a tropical jungle. In fact, the more accurate way to understand the impact of it is in climate VARIABILITY - more violent thunderstorms, worse droughts and heat waves, more ferocious winter storms. Doesn't mean winter storms are done everywhere.
None of that is occurring out of the ordinary though. People think they're special - meaning they think everything is more extraordinary during their minuscule lifetime. Meanwhile we had ridiculously devastating hurricanes and blizzards even before cars existed.
 
Old 02-15-2015, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Thanks for that. Good info. Where are the opponents' links? I see a lot of ridiculous assertions, but no evidence. Did you know we're paying scientists to prove things? Imagine that.
They don't seem to know that science does not attempt to prove things....Just the opposite.... Science works by disproving things. There is rarely absolute proof or certainty. Most 'facts' are merely highly probably, not absolutely certain. Science from Virginia Tech
 
Old 02-15-2015, 11:50 PM
 
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Who's we? What about those on the other side of the world where it's summer?
Or just the other side of the country like here in Seattle where it is 60 degrees and sunny in February and we have the lowest mountain snowpack in decades.
 
Old 02-15-2015, 11:59 PM
 
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They don't seem to know that science does not attempt to prove things....Just the opposite.... Science works by disproving things. There is rarely absolute proof or certainty. Most 'facts' are merely highly probably, not absolutely certain. Science from Virginia Tech
Yep, proof is for math and alcohol.

These claims of a global scientific conspiracy are amusing.
 
Old 02-16-2015, 12:02 AM
 
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None of that is occurring out of the ordinary though. People think they're special - meaning they think everything is more extraordinary during their minuscule lifetime.
No. People have studied the data that's been collected over the last 120 years.
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Meanwhile we had ridiculously devastating hurricanes and blizzards even before cars existed.
And even before dirt existed. So what?
 
Old 02-16-2015, 12:04 AM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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Yet they used about 10 years of hot weather to create a myth about a warming planet.

But now, 5 brutal winters in a row and cooler than average summers across the entire country does not add up to global cooling? Kind of inconsistent?
Here in California we are having record breaking heat, even in the far northern part of the state. We also had record warm summer. This has been our pattern for the past four years now. When a high blocks the moisture from coming in to the Pacific northwest, it causes the pattern of climate to change so that cold polar air drops down onto the east coast. Is not an ice age because it is cold where you are and is not indicitive of the entire USA.
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