"ISIS Burns 45 Iraqis alive" (economic, versus, society, arguments)

[dechatelet]

Originally Posted by pknopp

As I said, these same accusations were made when I argued against arming Isis. It certainly doesn't bother me when one is posting out of ignorance.

Your anti-American posts are right in this thread for all to see.

[dechatelet]

Originally Posted by pknopp

He argued to arm the "rebels" last fall. The problem is, he doesn't know who is who. If you send arms into Syria, they end up in the hands of Isis.

So now you're changing your story. Convenient.

[dechatelet]

Originally Posted by pknopp

Isis never attacked us.

And we never put any ISIS members in a cage and burned them alive.

Your comparing of America's bombing of Japan to ISIS atrocities, saying that America is as bad or worse than ISIS, speaks for itself.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by pknopp

Isis never attacked us.

And despite your efforts to the contrary, Hiroshima and Nagasaki aren't remotely comparable to the situation with ISIS.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by burdell

And despite your efforts to the contrary, Hiroshima and Nagasaki aren't remotely comparable to the situation with ISIS.

If you refuse to address the point, whatever. I'm fine with simply being right.

[chickenfriedbananas]

I think the place we all need to start is to know the enemy. We need to know who ISIS/ISIL are before we take any sort of measures against them. I absolutely agree that they need to be annihilated, but we've already spent $1 trillion dollars and several thousand American lives on a war that just felt right in Iraq and we've got little to show for it. In fact, it's very likely that ISIS is a *result* of that misguided invasion. We need to be more lethal than the enemy, yes, but that means being smarter not simply more outraged.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by pknopp

If you refuse to address the point, whatever. I'm fine with simply being right.

And just WHAT point do you think you've made?

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by burdell

And just WHAT point do you think you've made?

It's not our fight and for those it is, they can handle it unless we make it nearly impossible like in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by pknopp

It's not our fight and for those it is, they can handle it unless we make it nearly impossible like in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.

I've never argued against that point, only that to compare military operations in a declared war against a nation that attacked us to the actions of a bunch of low life religious zealots of no nation/military is silly.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by burdell

I've never argued against that point, only that to compare military operations in a declared war against a nation that attacked us to the actions of a bunch of low life religious zealots of no nation/military is silly.

The point is, they believe their countries were attacked. They did what they thought they must to win that war. It appears to be backfiring but this is what happens when people get attacked.

It doesn't matter that they were not the acknowledged leaders of these countries. If you attack people they are going to do some nasty things in return.

We have no business in these countries.