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"The idea is to ally ourselves with Countries with professional militaries in order to combat ISIS. The Iranian military is a joke."
Relative to ISIS?! Iraq was an intolerable threat, and Iran fought it to a standstill in the 80's, but I guess that was sheer luck. I'll remember that next time Bibi Netanyahu starts bleating about the imminent danger Iran poses to Israel. Obviously, if Iran is incapable of combating ISIS, and ISIS is of no real concern to Israel, then the transitive also holds.
"Just because U.S gives aid to Israel and the United States is prosperous because of it, does not mean that Israel jumps when asks how high."
Well thank heavens for the "prosperity" Israel sends our way in exchange for billions of dollars worth of American taxpayer money. Conservatives often claim that the public is better than the government at allocating its earnings, but evidently that's only in the case of the American government. And no, we shouldn't get a lot of lip from the Israelis when we tell them to do something, because they need us, we don't need them, and were an American president so inclined, he/she could stand back and allow the U.N. to torpedo the Israeli economy with crippling sanctions. One phone call is all it would take.
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Well thank heavens for the "prosperity" Israel sends our way in exchange for billions of dollars worth of American taxpayer money. Conservatives often claim that the public is better than the government at allocating its earnings, but evidently that's only in the case of the American government. And no, we shouldn't get a lot of lip from the Israels when we tell them to do something, because they need us, we don't need them, and were an American president so inclined, he/she could stand back and allow the U.N. to torpedo the Israeli economy with crippling sanctions. One phone call is all it would take.
Ignorance is a bliss and American exceptionalism seems to run rampant amongst, especially amongst the morally bankrupt left with anything Israel. You should know, that America is no longer a unipolar amongst the world, and its needs allies.
You should do your homework on the Israeli economy and how prosperous it has been in the last two decades ( And not exactly from America's help either). You should also ask yourself, what products or everyday services do I own or use that come from Israel? Your ability to even complain about Israel has been provided to you by Israeli technology through the foreign aid program (Laptop processors, Cell phone chips, ect). So the irony of the liberal who pretends Israel is does nothing yet uses the technology that Israel created.
Anyhow, politically Israel does need the United States more than the other way around; Basically, the U.S veto in the UNSC. But economically, the U.S has received plenty from Israeli engineers militarily and through the civilian world as well as billions of dollars of profit from Israeli defense purchases and credit.
Some ally. What has Israel done for us lately -- besides inflaming hatred against us and getting Americans killed? We don't owe them anything, they don't have anything we need (e.g., oil), so they're about #50 on my list of concerns.
More wacky talk from the citydata IhateIsrael stronk crew....
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Oh, no -- never have we been in cahoots with Saudi Arabia or any other oppressive regime. Uzbekistan has a lovely government, and an even lovelier airfield. Extraordinary rendition? Never heard of it.
So Uzbekistan is a better strategic ally than Israel?
"You should do your homework on the Israeli economy and how prosperous it has been in the last two decades ( And not exactly from America's help either)."
Israel is an economic ant. My homestate, Minnesota, has a larger GDP with 3 million fewer residents.
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"You should also ask yourself, what products or everyday services do I own or use that come from Israel? Your ability to even complain about Israel has been provided to you by Israeli technology through the foreign aid program (Laptop processors, Cell phone chips, ect). So the irony of the liberal who pretends Israel is does nothing yet uses the technology that Israel created."
Yeah, microchips manufactured by Intel and HP by way of Israel. Founded in a garage in Tel Aviv? Not so much.
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"But economically, the U.S has received plenty from Israeli engineers militarily and through the civilian world as well as billions of dollars of profit from Israeli defense purchases and credit."
A pittance in the big scheme of things, and I won't credit Israel for defense purchases made with American taxpayer money. We could just as easily do the purchasing ourselves, the only difference is we'd get to keep what we paid for.
Kinda suspicious, is it not? If they are right next door to it and not concerned, why should we be half a world away?
So your concerned why a Country that has enemies on all of its Borders, that have vowed to kill them. or wipe them off the face of the Earth, a Country that is constantly being attacked by Terrorists, rocketed day and night, by enemies just across the Border, and being invaded by infiltrators that kill their citizens, does not seem to be too concerned with ISIS?
Maybe because they have been fighting "ISIS" by another name already for years and years, and ISIS is just another bunch of Terrorists they will deal with when the need to.
WE are concerned because the Media and Republicans tell us we should worry, and that ISIS may sweep across our plains one day soon.
Really? And what exactly does ISIS have to fear from Israel?
Israelis aren't supermen. They die too.
Maybe Israel doesn't sweat ISIS because they know it's no threat to them. Just like it's no threat to us.
Maybe they aren't but they also aren't defenseless civilians either. ISIS is no threat to Israel at this point. When they do become one, they will be dealt with.
They want war with Iran, and they want American Goyum scum to pay for it.
Eye on the prize.
ISIS is a vague Islamic distraction that can be used to help prop up their larger vision, but it will never dominate the conversation.
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