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Old 02-18-2015, 05:50 PM
 
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Why "should" the Republicans deal with it in court rather than congress? I mean, you wouldn't say the President should sign a bill he dislikes and thinks is maybe unconstitutional and then litigate it rather than just veto. You'd want him to just veto it, and he would.
Actually I believe that things like this should be resolved in court so that they are resolved no matter WHAT party is in charge.

It was wrong when Bush did this, and the Democrats should have taken it to court back then. Its also wrong when Obama tries to do this.
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Old 02-18-2015, 05:52 PM
 
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There was nothing added to the bill. The funding the president wanted added in was left out. Never created.
Which is being done via amendments to the bill. You do know what amendments are...right? And understand that they add language to a bill....right?
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Old 02-18-2015, 05:52 PM
 
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Actually I believe that things like this should be resolved in court so that they are resolved no matter WHAT party is in charge.

It was wrong when Bush did this, and the Democrats should have taken it to court back then. Its also wrong when Obama tries to do this.
It is going to court. That's irrelevant to whether or not Congressmen uphold their oaths.
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Old 02-18-2015, 05:54 PM
 
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Actually I believe that things like this should be resolved in court so that they are resolved no matter WHAT party is in charge.

It was wrong when Bush did this, and the Democrats should have taken it to court back then. Its also wrong when Obama tries to do this.
There's two questions here:

1. Was the action constitutional?

2. Will it stand politically.

I guess you're right that in an ideal world the Republicans would let it work it's way through court so that (1) is answered before moving on to (2), but at the same time there's nothing wrong with trying to address (2) legislatively after that, and it's understandable - albeit not ideal from the perspective of answering the legal question - that they are jumping the gun.
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Old 02-18-2015, 05:54 PM
 
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Which is being done via amendments to the bill. You do know what amendments are...right? And understand that they add language to a bill....right?
Funding for illegal aliens is not in the bill. Obama doesn't dictate what is in bills. The (D)'s are wanting to add the language. The (R)'s are offering a clean bill.

The (R)'s have more votes because elections have meanings.
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Old 02-18-2015, 06:05 PM
 
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Funding for illegal aliens is not in the bill. Obama doesn't dictate what is in bills. The (D)'s are wanting to add the language. The (R)'s are offering a clean bill.

The (R)'s have more votes because elections have meanings.
They amended the bill. Why do you not understand this?

The (D)'s are NOT adding language. You're just lying. Nice! Thats how you want to argue this? By just making stuff up?
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Old 02-18-2015, 06:12 PM
 
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Sigh....ahh yes, blame the other party.

Send a clean DHS bill and it will get voted on.

Heck the other part of its being held up in court, and could lose. So why not just pass a clean bill?

Ohhhh because Republicans are still all about the hostage taking.

Stop! Or I will shoot the hostage, AND ITS ALL YOUR FAULT!!!!!

LOL.......is that not what is happened prior to 11/14? It's bush's fault...

LOL..................
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Old 02-18-2015, 06:13 PM
 
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Attaching demands to spending bills qualifies as ransom-taking, hyper-partisan, and just plain stupid. Republicans will get the blame for dysfunctional government yet again.
Yep, that's why the dems asz's were handed to them in the last TWO congressional elections....
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Old 02-18-2015, 06:18 PM
 
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Notice that since the repubs whooooooooooooooooooooooooooopeedddddddddddddddddd dddd the dems aszessssss in the last few congressional elections, it is now HOSTAGE taking......but when it was those dems doing it...well, they are just doing what is right...

How does i feel dems to eat what you have sown in the last few years?
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Old 02-18-2015, 06:23 PM
 
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The Repugs are the hostage takers. They know they need the dems to pass the bill. The dems have told them to pass a clean bill but the repugs just cannot let that happen. What a bunch of idiots the repugs are.
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