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Old 02-19-2015, 08:41 PM
 
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We raise it now and then and there may be a good argument for now but all these theories by those without a business are bunk.
I don't currently have a business going but I very well intend to. I have some things to do first, but I'm going to boot strap myself up quite a ways.
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Old 02-19-2015, 08:53 PM
 
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Why? Especially if you are saying their might be a good argument for raising it.
What have I said for the last few hours but to answer this question?
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Old 02-19-2015, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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What have I said for the last few hours but to answer this question?
And now we are stuck in a loop again....
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Old 02-19-2015, 09:21 PM
 
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wages is based on what one agrees on when hired, it is not based on company profit, its is no business of the employee what the profit is, its not the employee business, he has no risk in the matter. if the business make one dollar profit per hour on each employee or a 1000 dollars per hour per employee, its of no concern to the employee.

the only thing the employer owes the employee is:

wages for the hours work at the rate agreed upon
a safe place to work.

its not what the company can afford but what was agreed upon while hiring on.
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Old 02-19-2015, 09:44 PM
 
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Whats funny is that this is posted the same day that walmart announces that it is raising its pay.
I've often said Wal-Mart can afford a higher wage, but not everyone can. Wal-Mart could pay $30 an hour and still make huge profits.
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:58 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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wages is based on what one agrees on when hired, it is not based on company profit, its is no business of the employee what the profit is, its not the employee business, he has no risk in the matter. if the business make one dollar profit per hour on each employee or a 1000 dollars per hour per employee, its of no concern to the employee.

the only thing the employer owes the employee is:

wages for the hours work at the rate agreed upon
a safe place to work.

its not what the company can afford but what was agreed upon while hiring on.
The only reason employees agree with that wage is because it is that or go on government programs or become homeless. Just because an employee agrees to a wage does not mean they actually think that wage is fair it is just the lowest wage they will accept is. Employers owe employees a fair wage that is why we have a min wage in the first place so business owners can not exploit their employees.

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Old 02-20-2015, 06:05 AM
 
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The only reason employees agree with that wage is because it is that or go on government programs or become homeless. Just because an employee agrees to a wage does not mean they actually think that wage is fair it is just the lowest wage they will accept is. Employers owe employees a fair wage that is why we have a min wage in the first place so business owners can not exploit their employees.
McD's doesn't offer low wages because they want to exploit a worker with 4 kids. They offer low wages because they are offering low skill jobs that thousands of high school kids are capable and willing to perform.
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Old 02-20-2015, 06:26 AM
 
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Tell you what. You open a business and try the math. You aren't accounting for those making above minimum wage that will demand raises, raising their prices and so on and so forth. If it was that easy, everyone would have done it.
If every single worker in the world got a 10% raise, and prices raised 10%, then there would be no impact. If you assume that even a single worker got a raise smaller than the minimum wage increase, the average price increase will be smaller than the minimum wage increase and you'll have successfully increased the purchasing power of those workers.

It shouldn't be a surprising result, since minimum wage has increase hundreds of times around the world and always works this way. We're not talking about some abstract hypothetical.
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Old 02-20-2015, 06:30 AM
 
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If every single worker in the world got a 10% raise, and prices raised 10%, then there would be no impact. If you assume that even a single worker got a raise smaller than the minimum wage increase, the average price increase will be smaller than the minimum wage increase and you'll have successfully increased the purchasing power of those workers.

It shouldn't be a surprising result, since minimum wage has increase hundreds of times around the world and always works this way. We're not talking about some abstract hypothetical.
Yes, minimum wage has gone up many times but yet the wealth gap is at record levels. The problem is not the minimum wage.
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Old 02-20-2015, 06:58 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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A $31,200 isn't that much, you act like people should be lucky to make that much money.
I worked in a Marketing/Sales department and was paid only $25,000 year in the late 80's. You're not going to try to tell me that inflation has forced salary's that much higher since then, are you?

No low skilled "trained monkey" is worth $31,200/year!
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