Guiliani on Obama: He Doesn't Love His Country (Clinton, Rudy Giuliani, 9/11)

[Greg_IA]

Originally Posted by Enigma777

How about what Giuliani's faithful do not know? Why don't you read a little about this fabulous guy with whom you are agreeing.

"The onetime presidential candidate also revealed at the party that Obama "doesn't love America...
Rudy may have forgotten the half-dozen deferments he won ducking the Vietnam War, even getting the federal judge he was clerking for to write a letter creating a special exemption for him. And remember Bernie Kerik? He's the Giulaini police commissioner, business partner and sidekick whose nomination as homeland security secretary narrowly preceded indictments. He then did his national service in prison."

"Giuliani went so far as to rebuke the President for not being "brought up the way you were and the way I was brought up through love of this country," a bow no doubt to the parenting prowess of Harold Giuliani, who did time in Sing Sing for holding up a Harlem milkman and was the bat-wielding enforcer for the loan-sharking operation run out of a Brooklyn bar owned by Rudy's uncle."

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/w...icle-1.2122253

I'm agreeing with what he recently said regarding Obama and this country. That's the thread topic.

[Veneficus]

Originally Posted by Old Gringo

Rudy is simply playing a hand designed to appeal to one of the more amusing aspects of right wing wackiness...

While accusing the American president of being some kind of foreign, commie sympathizer, they simultaneously heap praise on the dwarfish commie KGB Russian dictator.

Comedy gold.

Putin serves Russia.

America serves Obama.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by shopalcholic

SMH speaking about racist remarks , I recall Giuliani as a prosecutor he went after his own kind. I think people better stop reading and drinking all that kool aid .. Kudos to him for speaking up in what a lot of people believe and I am happy he won't back down. I see freedom of speech only applies to a few what he said his is right.. He undid all the damage that Dinkins did just like Obama is damaging this country the next President will have to undo...

What Rudy said was his O-P-I-N-I-O-N, nothing more, and he has every right to offer it. Just as others have every right to offer their own opinions about Rudy.

[Veneficus]

Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun

Obama should throw on a flight suit and torture some people so Republicans can feel better.

He could man up like the King of Jordan too.

[middle-aged mom]

Originally Posted by burdell

He said his O-P-I-N-I-O-N unsupported by fact.

WHAT is there to refute?

The people tend to confuse political opinions with facts. (shrug)

[michiganmoon]

Originally Posted by ambient

Not really. Giuliani is reducing his stature to that of about Donald Trump with these redneck hillbilly comments. No one is going to take him seriously anymore.

Just because you don't agree with someone's policies doesn't give you the right to conclude that he or she doesn't "love this country." Adults recognize this; petulant, tantrum-prone children don't. It's a very childish claim to make, and it makes the claimant look stupid.

By the way, blind devotion to patriotism and "American Exceptionalism" is stupid and leads to horrible, arrogant, and naive policy. It is not a good measure of a political leader but rather quite the opposite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U

Obama is reducing his stature to that of about Michael Moore with these cheap low-IQ comments. No one is going to take him seriously anymore.

Just because you don't agree with someone's policies and outcomes doesn't give you the right to conclude that Bush is "unpatriotic" (doesn't love this country) for adding 4 Trillion in new debt. Adults recognize this; petulant, tantrum-prone children don't. It's a very childish claim to make, and it makes the claimant look stupid.

By the way, blind devotion to patriotism and "American Exceptionalism" is stupid and leads to horrible, arrogant, and naive policy -- that is why I only support American Exceptionalism when it is convenient for a particular policy that the Democrats are pushing. It is not a good measure of a political leader but rather quite the opposite.

Thankfully, Americans would be too smart to vote for this clown, who would probably add 8 Trillion in debt in his first 6 years and the out-Bush Bush on just about everything that he complained that Bush was doing wrong! Good thing you were too smart to vote for this clown!

[nononsenseguy]

Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun

Of course not! I expect hayseeds and rubes are big fans of his too.

She is no rube.
Bravo! | Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs

And neither am I. I agree with him. And I agree with Pamela Geller.

What's your excuse?

[nononsenseguy]

Originally Posted by Goodnight

I take issue with someone that made sure he avoided the draft criticizing others of not being patriots, he should have kept his mouth shut with his background including his companies relations with Qatar.

He is a hypocrite.

Got any evidence for your wild accusations?

And what about Obama's associations with terrorists, and communists like Frank Marshall Davis. What about his 20 years at the church of Jeremiah Wright, Black Liberation Theologist? His Muslim Brotherhood friends in the White House who are part of his administration? What's up with that?

What was that about Giuliani again?

[Old Gringo]

This kind of blabbering has strong appeal to its intended audience of rabid religious right wingers.

No one should interpret this as any sort of gaff. It's a calculated move, no doubt fed to Giuliani by his GOP handlers to keep his hand in the game.

After all, some high ranking and nationally recognized Pub is always assigned the job of attack dog as campaign season approaches.

His comments will gather lots of support in this thread. Watch and see.

Carry on.

[wildflower82]

Originally Posted by burdell

OH?

Just WHAT constitutes being "raised as an American"?

And just HOW does any politician having views that don't fall in line with everyone else's views make him/her unique?

Let's see...... trying to convince us Muslims had hand in creating America, this is not in any American History book I know of. He has given 3 speeches lately about Muslims in American history, why would this be?

Try looking up the first mosque built in North Dakota, wasn't really much of anything, if a mosque at all. Plus anything relating to this mosque happens to be Muslims writing this, not historians, does President Obama think we are foolish to not know?

I grew up as an American knowing we have four seasons and the climate does change.

Americans believe in immigration, they don't believe in bringing people in by the thousands and then asked to pay for all their needs. Guess these poor people need jobs Americans won't do, when we should have been telling our kids they were not above hard work.

I've never said there was change nor that Obama was anything but just another political hack. That's what the two party system has led to, one political hack vs. another, the choice of lesser evil.

Rather than change the parties we are stuck with Hillary and Bush 2016......

Wonder how we can stop the 2 sided rigged system and just vote by the MAN with the best honor and polices?

Originally Posted by burdell

You guys aren't exactly slackers with your hero's "Facts are stupid things" When ketchup becomes a vegetable I might believe your one-sided view, until then not so much. There's more than enough stupidity in Washington to cover more than two parties.

Come on if you squeeze the tomato, you get Ketchup I refuse to believe ketchup is all sugar and tomato paste! I just never buy Heinz.........