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Old 02-24-2015, 10:11 PM
 
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There is absolutely nothing in what I say that indicates fear of them. You are just making that up to comfort yourself.
LMAO!

Who you trying to convince, me or you? You just said you wanted to kick Muslims, even those born here, out of the country, a clear violation of the 1st and 14th Amendments. Anyone who wants to adopt those kinds of laughably extreme and ridiculously illegal measures, is TERRIFIED of Muslims. Those aren't the ideas of a rational, sober person, they're the ideas of a person who just had to change his drawers because he thought he saw a Muslim.

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You can welcome the enemies of this country if you like. I choose not to do that. I choose not to be a traitor like you, a traitor who gives aid and comfort to those who would kill Americans.

Your hatred of America and all it stands for couldn't be more apparent. Your defense of the foul, despicable and odious couldn't be more apparent.
lol

Such overwrought purple prose. Priceless!

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The Constitution does not prevent this nation from protecting itself, much though you would like to believe otherwise.
The Constitution certainly does not allow the government to deport American citizens.

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We had a similar situation with Japanese-Americans during WW II. They were far less of a likely threat to us than Muslims. But FDR chose "better safe than sorry" anyway.
FDR chose wrong. Neither Muslims now or the Japanese-American population then posed much of a threat. A move born out of fear.

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Isn't he a hero to you libs?

The Constitution didn't stop him from doing what he did.

Americans will rise up and expel the rascals if our government doesn't. And those who defend the miscreants will do so at their peril.
There is no way in 2015 that FDR would have been able to get away with that. And you're not recommending internment, you're saying citizens of this country ought to be kicked out (a violation of the 14th Amendment) because of their religious beliefs, essentially outlawing a religion (a clear violation of the 1st Amendment).

Now some facts to cut through your hysterical (and hilarious) fear.

There are over 1.5 billion Muslims in the world.

Of them, even if I took a high estimate, about 50,000 of them are members of terrorist groups or ISIS/ISIL (about 20,000 of those are in ISIS/ISIL).

That's .003 of 1% of the world's Muslims. Three one-thousandths of a percent. To compare, the number of Americans who commit murder is .004, a thousandth of a percent greater. Since I'm guessing math isn't your strong point (or you wouldn't be recommending such laughably idiotic things to deal with a very remote threat), three-thousandths of a percent is a very, very, very, very tiny number, and it's only that high because I lowballed the estimate of the world's total Muslim population and highballed the estimate of the total number of Islamic terrorists.

You call me a traitor. You're confused. I'm just not a cowardly Chicken Little, afraid of his own shadow like you are. You ought to change your handle to "Depends" because you should probably wear some as fearful as you are.
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Old 02-24-2015, 10:18 PM
 
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So what? This isn't a numbers game. It's an "I'm going to kill Americans just because they're Americans " game.They are free to practice their religion. I never suggested otherwise.

They can do it in whatever countries accept them when we deport them, or they can do it in prison if no countries accept them.
Who are you going to deport? African-American Muslims whose families have been here for several centuries? That's at least a quarter of all Muslims in the US. Then there's other converts to the religion who are American-born and bred.

Are you going to deport anyone from a Muslim nation who has immigrated to the US or whose parents or grandparents of might have been Muslim? There's plenty of non-devout people from Muslim nations or descended from those nations who may or may not have been raised Muslim who may not currently practice the faith but might consider themselves culturally "Muslim" or not. Not really much way of knowing who is who unless you run some sort of intensive ancestry check and in person interrogations.

How will you determine who gets deported? Perhaps some sort of one-drop rule or religious purity laws might work? Maybe this could help: Mischling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 02-24-2015, 10:42 PM
 
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canukinportland are you a dirty hipster? Do you wear skinny jeans a stupid hat and always carry a book from the 1800s? You sound like a pretentious hipster.
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Old 02-24-2015, 10:44 PM
 
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Who are you going to deport? African-American Muslims whose families have been here for several centuries? That's at least a quarter of all Muslims in the US. Then there's other converts to the religion who are American-born and bred.

Are you going to deport anyone from a Muslim nation who has immigrated to the US or whose parents or grandparents of might have been Muslim? There's plenty of non-devout people from Muslim nations or descended from those nations who may or may not have been raised Muslim who may not currently practice the faith but might consider themselves culturally "Muslim" or not. Not really much way of knowing who is who unless you run some sort of intensive ancestry check and in person interrogations.

How will you determine who gets deported? Perhaps some sort of one-drop rule or religious purity laws might work? Maybe this could help: Mischling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
How about we just sent most of the Somalis in MN to Portland O.
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Old 02-24-2015, 10:53 PM
 
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Who are you going to deport? African-American Muslims whose families have been here for several centuries? That's at least a quarter of all Muslims in the US. Then there's other converts to the religion who are American-born and bred.

Are you going to deport anyone from a Muslim nation who has immigrated to the US or whose parents or grandparents of might have been Muslim? There's plenty of non-devout people from Muslim nations or descended from those nations who may or may not have been raised Muslim who may not currently practice the faith but might consider themselves culturally "Muslim" or not. Not really much way of knowing who is who unless you run some sort of intensive ancestry check and in person interrogations.

How will you determine who gets deported? Perhaps some sort of one-drop rule or religious purity laws might work? Maybe this could help: Mischling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This thread is about muslim Somali refugees from Minnesota. If they commit crimes or support al-shabbab then yes send them back to Somali just like your country dose.

Somalian criminal begs to stay in Canada - Manitoba - CBC News
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:02 PM
 
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canukinportland are you a dirty hipster? Do you wear skinny jeans a stupid hat and always carry a book from the 1800s? You sound like a pretentious hipster.
And you sound like a delightful and well-educated individual.

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How about we just sent most of the Somalis in MN to Portland O.

There are Somalis in Portland, most aren't much trouble. At least not as much as the Scotch-Irish.

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This thread is about muslim Somali refugees from Minnesota. If they commit crimes or support al-shabbab then yes send them back to Somali just like your country dose.

Somalian criminal begs to stay in Canada - Manitoba - CBC News
That person isn't being deported because he's Muslim, but because he's a criminal.

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Old 02-24-2015, 11:20 PM
 
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Well good than we agree we will deport lawbreakers to their country of origin after they have served their sentence.
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:23 PM
 
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Canukinportland do you support equality and marriage rights for LBGT community?
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:40 PM
 
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Well good than we agree we will deport lawbreakers to their country of origin after they have served their sentence.
Truer words were never said. We have enough criminals here without importing them in from other countries.
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Old 02-24-2015, 11:40 PM
 
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I don't hate Somalis as a people, I dislike their actions and beliefs(islam). Somalis are NOT progressive and they hate the LBGT community and have a **** poor record on womens rights. Why would anyone especially liberals and progressives want to voluntarily import that into their country? Please answer me that.



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