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Old 02-22-2015, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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If this were to actually happen, it would be end end of Muslim tolerance here. Mass deportations would begin almost immediately. No longer could we allow these terrorists to hide among the so-called peaceful.
Islam is not compatible with the American culture.
Mass deportation of whom?

It has been estimated there are about 2.75 million people of Muslim faith in the US and that 75-80% are US citizens.
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Old 02-22-2015, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Do you have a link or some study that suggests that very Muslim coming to America is a member of Al Shabby? If not, then your post is entirely worthless. To make a such a sweeping claim without evidence is reactionary nonsense.
A Somalian terrorist cell put out a video calling for attacks on malls in Canada, the UK and US. I don't believe a specific mall was cited.

The Mall of America in Minnesota is the largest in the US.
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Old 02-22-2015, 09:08 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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If this were to actually happen, it would be end end of Muslim tolerance here. Mass deportations would begin almost immediately. No longer could we allow these terrorists to hide among the so-called peaceful.
Islam is not compatible with the American culture.
If these things didn't happen after 9/11, what makes you think the aftermath of an attack on a mall would change that?
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Old 02-22-2015, 09:08 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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America should let the Middle East handle this issue. Our involvement has made things worse. To me, that says we shouldn't be involved.

Obama is more than aware of who the enemy is. Just because he won't say 'radical Islam' in a speech doesn't mean he thinks those people are harmless. He won't say it because it's controversial. Conservatives already don't like him so he's got nothing to lose by avoiding the word, but if he implied the wrong thing, he'll upset the liberals, which he does not want. And his many air strikes suggest that he knows exactly who he's fighting.

Also, what college student doesn't hate the government at least a little bit?
You do not understand Islam. Our involvement has nothing to do with it. They are following what their religion tells them to do, and that is to "kill the infidel."

If we "let the Middle East handle" it [the issue], all of Europe would become slaves to Islam, Judaism and Christianity would be wiped out (as they are already doing), Israel would be wiped out (as they intend) and they would be on their way to the U.S. (they are already here, and they are here to make America an Islamic state).

That's why we must fight them on their turf.
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Old 02-22-2015, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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How many attacks by radical Muslim groups should we tolerate before we crush them once and for all? Three? Four?
You want to crush 2 billion people spread across the globe?
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Old 02-22-2015, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Is al-kabaab the brother of shish-kabaab?

Minnesota does have a lot of Muslims, especially Minneapolis. Where there's wheat, there's chaff.

Distrust and caution are the parents of security. - B. Franklin
Minnesota has the largest mall in the US.

Minnesota is # 18 in terms of percentage of population that are Muslim.

The top 5 most Muslim populated states are:

Illinois
Virginia
NY
NJ
Texas
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Old 02-22-2015, 09:30 AM
 
Location: North America
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You do not understand Islam. Our involvement has nothing to do with it. They are following what their religion tells them to do, and that is to "kill the infidel."

If we "let the Middle East handle" it [the issue], all of Europe would become slaves to Islam, Judaism and Christianity would be wiped out (as they are already doing), Israel would be wiped out (as they intend) and they would be on their way to the U.S. (they are already here, and they are here to make America an Islamic state).

That's why we must fight them on their turf.
Actually, they did handle it for several Generations. Seems that the only times the middle east has issues is when the U.S. goes into it and destabilizes the region. And if they are wiped out by not being able to defend themselves, so be it. Why is it our job to fight while the rest of the world sits on their asses?
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Old 02-22-2015, 09:33 AM
 
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You want to crush 2 billion people spread across the globe?
There you go again, turning a specific reference to 'radical Muslim groups' into a desire to crush 2 billion Muslims.

We know have Islamic nations trying to destroy ISIL; does that mean they also want to crush 2 billion Muslims.
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Old 02-22-2015, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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You do not understand Islam. Our involvement has nothing to do with it. They are following what their religion tells them to do, and that is to "kill the infidel."

If we "let the Middle East handle" it [the issue], all of Europe would become slaves to Islam, Judaism and Christianity would be wiped out (as they are already doing), Israel would be wiped out (as they intend) and they would be on their way to the U.S. (they are already here, and they are here to make America an Islamic state).

That's why we must fight them on their turf.
Had we not gotten involved in the first place, ISIS wouldn't even exist. I know we like to pretend that 9/11 was about the Muslims hating our freedom, but that's not even it. That wasn't really about religion at all. Bin Laden hated American imperialism and felt we shouldn't be involved in ME affairs. Somewhere along the way, we turned 9/11 into Bin Laden's jihad because it fit our narrative.

Our involvement has made a bad situation significantly worse. ISIS was made possibly because we thought we knew what was best for Iraq; we didn't. Now the Middle East suffers because we think we are the Messiah to the world. The rest of the world hates us and I can't really say that I blame them. Bin Laden's hatred for America makes sense. Obviously, his actions were way out of line, but how would we feel if China or Russia started being overly involved in US affairs? Or if they were occupying our land, didn't have to abide by our constitution, and American deaths could be viewed as collateral damage.

What we're doing to the Middle East is wrong. If we continue to stay, the same pattern of deterioration will continue. I don't want to know what's worse than ISIS.

I also think you're giving ISIS a little too much credit. Do they really have the power to overrun Europe? I just don't see that as being plausible. World domination isn't possible. You can't spread yourselves that thin and expect your ideas to be sustained. Even if they did somehow convert everyone to Islam, within 100, there would be numerous sects of Islam, some of which would be unrecognizable and we'd have essentially created a completely new religion. There never will be a single world religion. The Christians tried and failed. The Muslims have better technology than the Christian did, but they're trapped in the Middle East.
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Old 02-22-2015, 09:45 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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How many attacks by radical Muslim groups should we tolerate before we crush them once and for all? Three? Four?
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You want to crush 2 billion people spread across the globe?
Are you claiming all 2 billion Muslims across the globe are members of radical Islamic groups? How ridiculous.
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