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Who is it again that is negotiating a treaty that by all accounts has no possibility of passing the Senate? If the details are accurate about the only super majority vote you could expect is a bipartisan no. LOL
It doesn't require a vote, it isn't a treaty. Presidents have made deals on their own for centuries. Maybe instead of banning AP US History, Republicans should actually sit through the class. Its unfortunately we have 47 fools of such incompetence in our highest elected body.
Turbanlife78, perhaps you haven't noticed, but there's really no "working through differences" that has been successful in the last 1,000 years in the Middle East.
Just sayin'.....
No kidding! And since when did Iran judge who it funded for terrorist activity against any number of other countries based upon being threatened itself?
My goodness; the fundamental mistake being made here is thinking a radical theocratic regime apply the same rationale to decision making that any other country does.
If they thought they could advance the cause of Islam they'd willingly sacrifice themselves on a smoking pyre in anticipation of their 72 virgins. How many examples of this suicidal thinking do supposedly intelligent people need witness to realize Iran has no interest at all in peace with the west or tolerance for Israelis or Jews wherever they are situated.
The question that needs asking is why in hell would Saudi Arabia with the fourth largest military budget in the world simply sit idly by watching while Iran builds a nuke that would render their whole insane lifestyle obsolete in one second?
Gotta ask why America needs to be the hallway monitor in the middle east when those retards have WAAAAAAY more to lose if mid-eastern nutbars of any stripe get a-hold of a nuke.
It's cool that you are privy as to what the negotiations include. Outside of that Iran is not going to allow up to traipse all over their country, not should which is why they won't.
Iran obviously care less about sanctions. China and Russia will continue to be happy to pick up any slack.
There will be nothing of substance to revoke.
Iran cares a great deal about sanctions, why do you think they are negotiating. The decrease in oil prices are adding to their exiting problems.
Yes we already have inspectors inside the country now, same for the future, that is public information too bad the congressmen that signed that letter didn't bother to do a little research on the issues involving nuclear capability.
Great Britain, France, Germany are also part of the negotiations are they also being unreasonable? and if the US bows out maybe they go their own way in support of an agreement.
Funny how the Ayatollah's seem to be more reasonable than the GOP.
Any deal will be scrutinized but this action by the GOP is an attempt to undermine a deal by the US that is still in negotiation. Right wing factions in both countries would like to maintain the status quo, that gets us nowhere and may lead to war.
Think about Iraq and out invasion in 2003 before being so quick to choose the alternative to peaceful negotiations.
Obama has been Crystal Clear that he will NOT allow any Congressional Oversight on whatever HE decides in regard to his Super Secret DEAL with Iran. HE and his Team regard this as his GREAT LEGACY and it is will be crammed down the throats of the entire World when it is done. The American people don't agree, the Congress doesn't agree - none of that will make a difference. The exact same thing was true with Obamacare.
It's going to be very difficult for him to pull off this scam again. Word is that there will be yet another "extension".
Everything O has done and will do will be rolled back in 2017.
It will take decades to repair the damage he has done domestically and internationally unfortunately.
This little stunt by the GOP is a violation of the Logan Act of 1798 which makes it illegal to conduct foreign policy is you are not the holder of the Office of President or his designee who is also a member of the executive branch or who is deputized by that same executive branch. This is one of the oldest laws in the US Code and came out of the XYZ affair where US private citizens and a few members of Congress tried to get the USA to go to war against Britain to help France. They met with French government officials.
Its illegal to have your own foreign policy unless you are a member of the Office of the President. Or that Office consents. I would send a complaint over to both Justice and the FBI. If they found grounds that the Logan Act was violated . Have the FBI and the Federal Marshalls arrest the whole lot of them who signed this letter sent to Iran. There's more than enough room in Federal Pens like Atlanta, Leavenworth or that nice one in Cuba to handle 47 Senators and members of the House who were foolish enough to sign on.
In fact why bother with The Federal pens when Gitmo is beyond US law and one could lock them up , no timely trial or even have to show cause or answer a Writ of Haebeus Corpus, ( i.e.lock the cell door throw away the key) then bar legal representation and since it might be necessary to find out what they were thinking use enhanced interrogation technique. Maybe it might dawn on the GOP caucus why Gitmo was a BAD idea and should have never opened in the first place. Now if we try them and convict them, the Congress would have to decide what to do with members of Congress who have been convicted of a High Crime and may no longer be eligible to serve in any Federal government position or even vote. The Constitution provides the answer.
What exactly is it that the GOP wants? No negotiations certainly leaves nuclear weapons on the table, and Cotton has stated he wants negotiations to end, so is he condoning nuclear wespons? Maybe it has something to do with the defense contractors he met with IMMEDIATELY after speaking on his illegal letter.
There is no reason to believe anything that comes from the Iranian sympathizers and mullah in the White House.
Obama is going to do what he wants to do under the guise of an executive agreement with Iran.
The problem here is .. From the 'little' that we have heard on this executive agreement is that it will be a ten year agreement!
Executive Agreements end at the end of a presidential term, this one will extend 10 years. So it is not an EA but a treaty.
Under the US Constitution, Article 2, Section 2, Clause 2 (in part): “He (The President) shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate to make treaties…”
Now go away!
You are so wrong and really an ignorant person. It will be an executive agreement even if all the other players treat it as a treaty and move to lift their sanctions against Iran and even sell weapons to Iran like Russia and China do right now. You can bet your sweat bippie Europe would sell Iran some of the world's best fighters (France's Rafale, Sweden's new Viggen and Eurofighter Typhoon) and some really good missiles. Not to mention nuclear reactors and nuclear fuel processing equipment. Also Europe needs a source of gas other then Russia's Gazprom, Iran has almost as many gas reserves as Russia and Iran would love the Euros.
Treaties often remain as Executive Agreements the best example is the Salt II treaty which was negotiated by Carter, withdrawn from the Senate in 1979 after the USSR invaded Afganistan and never ratified. But SALT II remained the basis for US strategic forces policy. President Reagan never breached the SALT II limits in any significant way for he feared a Soviet breakout of the treaty . The USSR did ratify the SALT II Treaty which was voted on by the Supreme Soviet. So the Soviets strictly adhered to the limits on strategic weapons and delivery systems. Other examples include the UN Law of the Sea Treaty, a treaty prohibiting land mines that we never ratified and lets not forget the International Criminal Court.
We should keep Gitmo open. I know 47 enemies of the state we can send.
And this list of 47 is headed by Tom Coburn and Mitch McConnell!
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